Civil unions for Illinois

[memphis]

Was it a largely Chicagoland vs. downstate vote? That'd be the obvious scenario but you never know.

[memphis]

As you know, I'm pretty much in agreement with with Muon, though I'd call it the "actuarial argument."  That does effect me, and all you that do/will get pension funds/Social Security.

Now, I'll tell you what deal I'll offer to all proponents of gay marriage/civil unions.  I'll start favoring full benefits for same sex marriages provided you make it illegal for a surviving spouse to get pension benefits, from this point onward.  The only it will be legal will be if decedent specifically paid in more to cover the costs; single, unattached people (me) don't pay anything.

In other words, when Dad/Gandpa dies, you better be prepared to fully support Mom/Grandma, personally.  If you don't, they starve to death.

Any takers?

Absolutely absurd.  So basically you only favor equality if you can kill off old people.

Killing olds and poors is the logical extension of GOP policies anyhow. At least he's up front about it.

[memphis]

As you know, I'm pretty much in agreement with with Muon, though I'd call it the "actuarial argument."  That does effect me, and all you that do/will get pension funds/Social Security.

Now, I'll tell you what deal I'll offer to all proponents of gay marriage/civil unions.  I'll start favoring full benefits for same sex marriages provided you make it illegal for a surviving spouse to get pension benefits, from this point onward.  The only it will be legal will be if decedent specifically paid in more to cover the costs; single, unattached people (me) don't pay anything.

In other words, when Dad/Gandpa dies, you better be prepared to fully support Mom/Grandma, personally.  If you don't, they starve to death.

Any takers?

Absolutely absurd.  So basically you only favor equality if you can kill off old people.

Killing olds and poors is the logical extension of GOP policies anyhow. At least he's up front about it.

No bankrupting pensions and freeloading off others is a Democratic thing, as we see here.

I'm say, great, have same sex marriages but make everyone pay for their spouses.  Funny, nobody seems to want to pay for it.
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Except the two issues have nothing to do with one another.  You may as well tie SS or gay marriage to defense spending or farm subsidies. It's not like gay marriages are ever going to constitute a significant amount of SS spending. SS wouldn't even have a funding problem if not for Bush and his disasterous tax cuts. I'm so sorry you're single and can't fully take advantage of SS because of it. There's no need to starve widows to get back at the universe.