Have the Democrats lost the White vote forever?

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They obviously need to reconnect to the forgotten man in dying America cuz that's where the future lies!

-That may not be where the future lies, but that was what worked the last time the Dems won the White vote (1964, 1948, FDR).

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When is the last time the Democrats won the white vote in the first place?  1964?

Who cares? They don't exactly need to win it outright. Only do well enough.

they need it to have good showings in congress and the states. Scraping past 270 every four years is not a good a strategy.

The problem for the Democrats is that they are progressively becoming more vested in identity politics to the point where white voters, particularly those white voters in "majority minority" locales, will vote like minorities for Republicans. 

The Democrats didn't have to go down this road, but they couldn't help it.  Indeed, the problem with the Democratic Party is that so many of its activists actively hate White Middle America.  They will say it's because they are "racist", but it's really their social conservatism and traditional world view that they loathe so deeply.  They have gotten so bad in that area that even union membership can't reverse the GOP trend. 

Really, the Democrats can't stop being stupid on this matter.  God forbid that they attempt to speak to all Americans as Americans, and not hyphenated this-and-that.

Okay dude. When the freight train of Arizona, Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, and Florida finally vote for Democrats within the next decade, don't say there weren't signs of it coming.

-North Carolina and Florida voted Democratic in 2008. So did Indiana. The first signs of a strong Dem movement in AZ, GA, TX came with Trump. Before him, talk of these states trending Dem could correctly be dismissed as fluff.

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There are a significant number of states where Democrats consistently lose the white vote, sometimes by large margins, but win statewide... e.g., Virginia.  More states will join this fold.

Good luck accomplishing that when you've managed to alienate whites into voting for Republicans by Mississippi White margins with your SJW slavery tax and reparations platform.

The notion that states like Virginia or Arizona will have whites voting at Mississippi margins is absurd.  The average white voter in Northern Virginia has almost nothing in common with the average Mississippi voter and their fiscal and other political interests are diametrically opposed.

-This is true. It's why Trump's gotta #DraintheSwamp in Washington, DC. As the swamp shrinks, so does NoVa.

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There are a significant number of states where Democrats consistently lose the white vote, sometimes by large margins, but win statewide... e.g., Virginia.  More states will join this fold.

Good luck accomplishing that when you've managed to alienate whites into voting for Republicans by Mississippi White margins with your SJW slavery tax and reparations platform.

The notion that states like Virginia or Arizona will have whites voting at Mississippi margins is absurd.  The average white voter in Northern Virginia has almost nothing in common with the average Mississippi voter and their fiscal and other political interests are diametrically opposed.

-This is true. It's why Trump's gotta #DraintheSwamp in Washington, DC. As the swamp shrinks, so does NoVa.

No just no.  First off - most of the NOVA population is not directly reliant on the Federal Government.  It has diversified greatly... there is a large tech sector... there are a ton of big law attorneys, etc. etc.  Second, I suspect the government crowd in NOVA is a lot more conservative than the government crowd generally as there are a lot of military related departments located there + contractors.

-Law firms are swamp. Tech firms may also be swamp as the Federal Government is a major customer.

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Still haven't seen why Democrats need to win the white vote.  2016 election results...

Virginia: Trump wins 59% of white vote, loses state.
New York: Trump wins 51% of white vote, loses state.
Colorado: Trump wins white vote 47-45%, loses state.
Nevada: Trump wins 56% of white vote, loses state.
etc. etc.

So as seen above, Democrats can easily win states without even coming close to getting a majority of the white vote...

It is only a matter of time before other states become in danger for the GOP unless they start winning more of the minority vote.  Focusing on Democrats having to win more votes of a shrinking share of the population rather than focusing on how Republicans need to win more votes of a growing population is absurd.

-Elections are won based on the relative size of the demographics, not their growth rate.

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Still haven't seen why Democrats need to win the white vote.  2016 election results...

Virginia: Trump wins 59% of white vote, loses state.
New York: Trump wins 51% of white vote, loses state.
Colorado: Trump wins white vote 47-45%, loses state.
Nevada: Trump wins 56% of white vote, loses state.
etc. etc.

So as seen above, Democrats can easily win states without even coming close to getting a majority of the white vote...

It is only a matter of time before other states become in danger for the GOP unless they start winning more of the minority vote.  Focusing on Democrats having to win more votes of a shrinking share of the population rather than focusing on how Republicans need to win more votes of a growing population is absurd.

-Elections are won based on the relative size of the demographics, not their growth rate.

Not this again... nobody reasonable disputes the fact that hispanics and other minorities will grow as a relative proportion of the population over the next 20 years.  Stopping immigration now is not going to change that.

-It'll slow the rate of change.

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Still haven't seen why Democrats need to win the white vote.  2016 election results...

Virginia: Trump wins 59% of white vote, loses state.
New York: Trump wins 51% of white vote, loses state.
Colorado: Trump wins white vote 47-45%, loses state.
Nevada: Trump wins 56% of white vote, loses state.
etc. etc.

So as seen above, Democrats can easily win states without even coming close to getting a majority of the white vote...

It is only a matter of time before other states become in danger for the GOP unless they start winning more of the minority vote.  Focusing on Democrats having to win more votes of a shrinking share of the population rather than focusing on how Republicans need to win more votes of a growing population is absurd.

-Elections are won based on the relative size of the demographics, not their growth rate.

Not this again... nobody reasonable disputes the fact that hispanics and other minorities will grow as a relative proportion of the population over the next 20 years.  Stopping immigration now is not going to change that.

-It'll slow the rate of change.

I don't disagree that it will have an impact, but if you look at all the hispanic kids under 18 at this very minute that are going to grow to age of minority, the hispanic vote is still going to massively increase as a proportion of the population.  You at least agree with that right?

-Sure.