2020 Redistricting in Pennsylvania

[UncleSam]

Idk I don’t think there’s much justification to split Pittsburgh three ways. I think there’s a lot more Lean / Likely R districts om that map than your ratings suggest, so it’s probably overall pretty fair and emphasizes competitiveness. A fair map of Pennsylvania is never going to give Dems as many seats as their vote counts would suggest because of how packed in the Philadelphia districts necessarily are.

Even so, I’ll bet Dems can get something kinder to them through the process than that map. I’d expect their final map will be aiming for a 9 R - 8 D split fairly reliably, although don’t rule out the possibility of gerrymandering efforts if Dems gain total control over the redistricting process.

[UncleSam]

Some of you are getting way too in the weeds. A fair map is one that reflects partisanship of the state. Doesn't matter how it got there. At the end of the day a Biden 9-8 map that includes a few very competitive districts IS a fair map. If anything, you could even argue that it favors Rs a bit since even though Biden won some of those districts, they are more R by PVI

Nope. It literally does not matter whether it reflects the partisanship of the state. A fair map is one that reflect the communities of interest of the state. We have a fundamental definitional disagreement of what a fair map is.

So if you have a state that has a huge city and smaller communities, but then only 1 district for that city and then say, 3-4 districts for those smaller communities, a map that is 3-1 or 4-1 for a state that could be equal in partisanship is fair? That makes no sense.

Why does that make no sense? Geographic disadvantage is a thing and it advantages both parties in different parts of the country.