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Question: Will 2020 be looked back on as a fluke if Biden loses to Trump?
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« on: November 23, 2023, 10:12:33 PM »

If Biden loses to Trump, will 2020 be looked back on as a fluke?
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2023, 01:17:08 AM »

Yes, which is the biggest reason why I hope Trump wins. Hopefully, that will cause Bidenism to be looked at as an abject failure, so that the Democrats can move onto a more successful brand of politics before the GOP actually has a high risk of going legit nuts in a way that endangers the world.

And Trump himself isn’t nuts?
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2023, 05:42:28 PM »

If Biden loses to Trump it will be remembered as the last free and fair election in US history.

It will not be that. Everyone said the same thing about 2016. If Trump actually successfully manages to turn the country into a dictatorship I will consider leaving this forum forever.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2023, 06:37:50 PM »

If Biden loses to Trump it will be remembered as the last free and fair election in US history.

It will not be that. Everyone said the same thing about 2016. If Trump actually successfully manages to turn the country into a dictatorship I will consider leaving this forum forever.

He wants to invoke the Insurrection Act on day one against 'dissidents'. He's planning to stack his administration with people who actively want to subvert democracy and is planning to essentially fire most of the civil service so loyalists can be installed.

If Trump wins, there will not be free elections in the US ever again. There will be election-type events, but they will play out exactly like Russia's.

There will be free elections. Trump doesn’t have control over the infrastructure of elections, which is done at a state-by-state basis. Also he’ll be dealing with a divided congress and a court system who laughed his post-2020 lawsuits out of court (not every judge is going to be Aileen Cannon). Even if Trump wants to be a dictator there are going to be roadblocks he runs into.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2023, 06:56:18 PM »

If Biden loses to Trump it will be remembered as the last free and fair election in US history.

It will not be that. Everyone said the same thing about 2016. If Trump actually successfully manages to turn the country into a dictatorship I will consider leaving this forum forever.

He wants to invoke the Insurrection Act on day one against 'dissidents'. He's planning to stack his administration with people who actively want to subvert democracy and is planning to essentially fire most of the civil service so loyalists can be installed.

If Trump wins, there will not be free elections in the US ever again. There will be election-type events, but they will play out exactly like Russia's.

There will be free elections. Trump doesn’t have control over the infrastructure of elections, which is done at a state-by-state basis. Also he’ll be dealing with a divided congress and a court system who laughed his post-2020 lawsuits out of court (not every judge is going to be Aileen Cannon). Even if Trump wants to be a dictator there are going to be roadblocks he runs into.

And what makes you think he won't attempt another January 6?


Because he’ll fail. Again.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2023, 01:12:27 AM »

If Trump wins again, 2020 will be looked back on as the last gasp of the American Republic.

For the last time this isn’t going to happen. Trump cannot seize control over the decentralized electoral process in the country no matter how much he tries.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2023, 05:22:04 PM »

If Biden loses to Trump it will be remembered as the last free and fair election in US history.

It will not be that. Everyone said the same thing about 2016. If Trump actually successfully manages to turn the country into a dictatorship I will consider leaving this forum forever.

"Liberals were wrong about Trump being a threat to democracy, because his attempt to overturn the election did not succeed" is such a ridiculous thing to believe.

No it’s not. Trump is not competent enough to destroy democracy.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2023, 11:46:27 PM »

If Biden loses to Trump it will be remembered as the last free and fair election in US history.

It will not be that. Everyone said the same thing about 2016. If Trump actually successfully manages to turn the country into a dictatorship I will consider leaving this forum forever.

"Liberals were wrong about Trump being a threat to democracy, because his attempt to overturn the election did not succeed" is such a ridiculous thing to believe.

No it’s not. Trump is not competent enough to destroy democracy.

This is a ridiculously dangerous and naive thing to believe. He was minutes away from succeeding in 2020! Do you have any idea how close the terrorists got to reaching members of Congress?

And it won’t happen again. Capitol Security was caught off guard in 2021 and they won’t be the next time it happens.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2023, 12:14:05 AM »

If Biden loses to Trump it will be remembered as the last free and fair election in US history.

It will not be that. Everyone said the same thing about 2016. If Trump actually successfully manages to turn the country into a dictatorship I will consider leaving this forum forever.

"Liberals were wrong about Trump being a threat to democracy, because his attempt to overturn the election did not succeed" is such a ridiculous thing to believe.

No it’s not. Trump is not competent enough to destroy democracy.

This is a ridiculously dangerous and naive thing to believe. He was minutes away from succeeding in 2020! Do you have any idea how close the terrorists got to reaching members of Congress?

And it won’t happen again. Capitol Security was caught off guard in 2021 and they won’t be the next time it happens.

A January 6th repeat is not the only way in which Trump can end democracy.

If Trump wins re-election, there will not be another free and fair election after that.

Yes. There. Will.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2023, 05:36:38 PM »

If Trump wins again, 2020 will be looked back on as the last gasp of the American Republic.

For the last time this isn’t going to happen. Trump cannot seize control over the decentralized electoral process in the country no matter how much he tries.

But his buddies can, and they could arrange for elections in which a huge majority go GOP.  An all-Korean election would go to the Korean Workers' Party (the only meaningful Party in North Korea) because one portion would be solid and the other would be split. 

What buddies? The congressional GOP is too divided to act on that and the only state governments his allies have power in are already solidly Republican.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2023, 07:29:22 PM »

If Trump wins again, 2020 will be looked back on as the last gasp of the American Republic.

For the last time this isn’t going to happen. Trump cannot seize control over the decentralized electoral process in the country no matter how much he tries.

But his buddies can, and they could arrange for elections in which a huge majority go GOP.  An all-Korean election would go to the Korean Workers' Party (the only meaningful Party in North Korea) because one portion would be solid and the other would be split. 

What buddies? The congressional GOP is too divided to act on that and the only state governments his allies have power in are already solidly Republican.

The 6-3 SCOTUS and other certain Federal Courts.

Nearly every court rejected Trump’s post-2020 lawsuits, and as we’ve seen with Allen vs. Milligan and Moore vs. Harper the most radical ideas won’t fly even with conservative judged.
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