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brucejoel99
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« on: November 07, 2019, 06:14:09 PM »

Wow, what an entitled prick. Hope he goes down in flames, but the mainstream media will probably prop him up so we'll see about that...

He may be many things, but I don't think "entitled" is the right word to use here. Political considerations aside, I would argue that it's wrong to be of the opinion that he doesn't have the ability to exercise his right to run for an elected office if he so chooses.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2019, 02:29:52 PM »

Honestly I wonder what he's hoping to accomplish. He's not stupid not to realize chances of him becoming the nominee, especially at this stage, are pretty much nonexistent. Even if Biden were to magically drop out it won't result in his voters just flocking to Bloomberg. His appeal is very limited.

Instead of playing an important role in financing campaigns he's ending his career on a joke note.

500th-dimensional shogi to help Biden, wherein Bloomberg runs so that Biden is contrasted with a billionaire who's hated by progressives, thereby making him more appealing to said progressives.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2019, 03:28:06 PM »

Honestly I wonder what he's hoping to accomplish. He's not stupid not to realize chances of him becoming the nominee, especially at this stage, are pretty much nonexistent. Even if Biden were to magically drop out it won't result in his voters just flocking to Bloomberg. His appeal is very limited.

Instead of playing an important role in financing campaigns he's ending his career on a joke note.

500th-dimensional shogi to help Biden, wherein Bloomberg runs so that Biden is contrasted with a billionaire who's hated by progressives, thereby making him more appealing to said progressives.

I firmly believe that Bloomberg has been approached by key elements of the Democratic Party who are extremely concerned about the quality of their field.  The most electable candidates can't catch fire in the polls.  The leaders all have massive flaws, as do the candidates just below the leaders.  The Democrats should be favored to beat Trump, but they're being perceived as blowing it, and no one on the Democratic side wants to be responsible for blowing it.

Bloomberg is a guy with both political and business gravitas.  He was a RINO who always was a social liberal who was a Democrat, then a Republican, then an Independent running on the Republican line, and then a Democrat again.  He's not supported the GOP national ticket in eons, and he supported Obama in 2012 and Hillary in 2016.  His achievements are formidable, and no one will accuse him of being an empty suit.  He's ready to be President on day one, and no one really doubts that.

I have said this before:  The Democratic field is unimpressive.  The Democratic interest groups that are the real stakeholders in the party see the 2020 election slipping away from them.  They need to be proactive and airlift a candidate with gravitas into the process.  There are few available.  Hillary Clinton isn't wanted and Al Gore is likely unavailable.  

The quality of the field is fine as it is. Bloomberg is just doing this because he hates the progressive wing of the party. If anything, this is proof that, at the end of the day, it's somebody like Bloomberg who wouldn't hesitate to divide Democrats if doing so would benefit his positions. Look at this objectively: attacking Warren & Sanders no matter the cost while also trying to siphon support from Biden & Pete could very well serve to essentially leave the Democrats unable to field a credible candidate in the general. This could get very bad, very fast, & if it's anybody's fault, it would be Bloomberg's, not the field's.

Joe Biden is collapsing, and people know this.  People also don't want to find out everything about Hunter Biden and Burisma; it may be a nothingburger, but it may not be, and what then?  Bloomberg is a fix to all this; he's Tom Steyer with political chops.  He's John Delaney with more business chops.  He's 77 years old, but he's sharper than Biden and healthier than Sanders.  And, as an added bonus, he'll be the first Jewish President in history, bringing forth a positive "first" buzz.  If the Democrats had to airlift a candidate into the race, Bloomberg is one of the best they could come up with.  

Biden is still consistently leading or tied for the lead in the polls & has higher favorability in battleground states & the South. How is he "collapsing"?

Moreover, it has already been proven that Burisma isn't something that "may be a nothingburger." It is a nothingburger, period.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2019, 01:53:00 PM »

Well, that, and the Democratic Party as an institution has given up on pretending to have learned anything from #MeToo.
Bloomberg is not a nice guy. But increasingly, I don’t want to vote for a nice guy. I want to vote for someone who, despite being a “big city out of touch (((elitist)))” has far better moral values than Trump or Sanders or anybody of the sort. Something’s just ironic to me that Pete and Michael - the two out of touch people (which yes, is code for gay/Jewish) - are so much smarter/have better morals than “Regular Guys” like Donald or Bernie.

This is kinda oxymoronic because Sanders is Jewish himself.

Don't let the facts ruin a good narrative.
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