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brucejoel99
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« on: December 31, 2018, 06:59:46 PM »

The irony of course being that a women from a working class family going to Harvard is the exact type of 'aspiration' and 'hard work' the GOP claim to love, whilst the GOP donor base is made up of rich trust fund types who A.) Went to Harvard B.) Live on the East or West Coast.

Don't forget C.) Don't actually want to see working-class types going to Harvard alongside the rich trust fund types.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 11:25:08 PM »

What would become of her Senate seat?

Republicans would take it thanks to Gov. Baker !

I really, really don't think Massachusetts would elect Baker to a Senate seat, and he knows this.

I believe Shadows was referring to Baker's ability to appoint an interim Senator to the seat for a few months while the special election campaign is conducted... or rather, his current ability, anyway, b/c...

Democrats will use their supermajority to pass a law that will take away interim Senate appointment power from the Governor. They did it in 2004 to take away the power from Romney to replace Kerry, and after Patrick won the Governorship, immediately gave that power back to him.


Oh, & as for the winner of that special election, it would 100% be Joe Kennedy (presuming, of course, that Markey doesn't retire in 2020 & Kennedy opts to go for that seat instead).
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2019, 05:40:50 PM »

What would become of her Senate seat?

Republicans would take it thanks to Gov. Baker !

I really, really don't think Massachusetts would elect Baker to a Senate seat, and he knows this.
How do you know what he thinks, can you read his mind? The truth is he can win, but ignorant hacks like you would probably get a heart attack by the tought of Massachusetts electing a republican for senate, so you guys make up dumb excuses while talking about flipping ultra-red states like Kansas, Montana, Texas etc,,.
I am 100% certain Baker would make this race competitive.

No, he can't, & I swear, you're either trolling or you're just a hack &, regardless of which it is, it's getting really old at this point, so please stop.

What you fail to comprehend is that Baker only got re-elected b/c he was running for Governor in a state that likes crossing over for competent Republican governors. That's why he's popular! But Massachusetts isn't crazy: they wouldn't elect him, or any Republican, to a federal office in a regular election; no Republican has won a regular Senate election in Massachusetts since 1972. Baker, like any of his competent Republican predecessors not named Bill Weld, isn't gonna try & commit career suicide for a lost cause.

Baker is popular at the state level, but were he to run federally, the Democrats would tarnish him, tie him to Trump (which, as I'll explain in a sec, will truly be his death knell), & nationalize the race, Baker would be lucky to lose to Markey (one of the most popular Democratic politicians in Massachusetts) by 53% to 47%, & that's the absolute best chance I'd be willing to give Baker.

Oh, & your pro-Baker hackery is completely destroyed by the fact that Trump is President. You fail to understand that Massachusetts is anti-Trump in a way that it just hasn't opposed other Republicans. So no GOP candidate, even King Charlie, is going to win if that win were to mean that Trump would have another vote in Washington. It's just not gonna happen, & it's *esp.* not gonna happen in an election where Trump himself will be at the top of the ballot.

Also...

Also, btw, we already flipped Kansas and Montana, we’re not ‘talkinng’ about it. ( ;
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2019, 05:06:24 PM »

Lol, racism isn't the reason people go after her lies regarding being native American, it's the fact she lied about it to advance her career in academia

No, actually, she didn't lie about being Native American or use it to further her career. You can keep repeating an already oft-repeated outright lie if you want, but it must be debunked.

Firstly, there's already a way of confirming Warren's ancestry: the DNA test she just took, which concluded that "while the vast majority of [Warren's] ancestry is European, the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in [her] pedigree, likely in the range of 6–10 generations ago." This confirms what genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society found when he looked into Warren's background & found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother (i.e. 6 generations ago) who is Native American, which ancestry-wise would make her 1/32 Cherokee. Plus, she was told by her family that she's part-Cherokee while she was growing up in Oklahoma, & there's no way of proving she lied about her family history or what she was told as a child. To accuse Warren of lying about having Native American ancestry when there's nothing but evidence that proves she's telling the truth is nothing more than a political hit job.

Secondly, there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Warren's perceived Native American ancestry played a role in advancing her career. Yes, in the 1990s, Harvard Law School touted then-professor Warren as being "Native American," but not only have several colleagues & employers (including Harvard) said her reported ethnic status played no role in her hiring, an investigation by The Boston Globe last year found "clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools." So she never furthered her career by using her heritage to gain advantage, either.

You can nonchalantly trot this vicious smear out while offering no evidence all you want, but know full well that it's just not true.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2019, 08:50:47 PM »


*contributions, not donors
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2019, 01:41:01 PM »

Last time I checked, Warren's plan wouldn't give China openings all over the planet by failing to honor our obligations & starting petty trade fights.
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