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« on: November 14, 2018, 04:22:53 AM »

Looks like Beto will soon overtake Harris.  And if he ever really hints at jumping in... he will jump a fair amount.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 02:41:10 AM »

Does anyone happen to know What were the betting odds like at this time in 2006 & 2002...on the Dems side?

Also Does anyone know what the odd were like around this time in 2014...on the Republican side?
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2018, 07:11:24 AM »

Does anyone happen to know What were the betting odds like at this time in 2006 & 2002...on the Dems side?

Also Does anyone know what the odd were like around this time in 2014...on the Republican side?

Republicans in 2014:

Bush 20.8
Rubio 15.8
Romney 13.4
Paul 11.6
Christie 11.1
Walker 10.5
Cruz 6.2
Perry 5.3

Dems in 2006 (on Tradesports):

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=49244.msg1050293#msg1050293

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So will 2020 be more like 2006 or 2014 or a combo of the 2?...
2006: The Final 3 were all in the poll's Top 4.
2014:  The Final 2 were not even in the poll's Top 6
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 09:08:52 PM »

O'Rourke up to 20 for the Democratic nomination, having retaken the lead:

Democratic nomination:

O’Rourke 20.0
Harris 18.5
Warren 12.2
Biden 10.5
Sanders 7.8
Booker 6.4
Gabbard 5.9
Brown 5.3
Gillibrand 5.3
Klobuchar 4.8




This actually looks somewhat realistic. (although Warren should be lower... and Sherrod Brown should be higher).
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2019, 07:20:46 AM »

Warren’s announcement boosts her into a tie with Sanders for 5th place:

Democrats
O’Rourke 22.2
Harris 19.2
Biden 14.3
Sanders 10.5
Warren 10.5
Klobuchar 8.1
Gillibrand 6.8
Booker 5.6

Republicans
Trump 61.9
Haley 8.1
Pence 7.5
Corker 6.6
Kasich 6.0
Ryan 4.2
Romney 3.4

Four years ago at about this time:

Bush 31.0
Rubio 13.4
Paul 12.8
Romney 11.4
Walker 10.0
Christie 9.5
Cruz 6.2
Perry 5.7
Ryan 3.6
Huckabee 3.3
Jindal 2.8
Pence 2.8

Eight years ago at about this time on Intrade:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=93015.msg2772813#msg2772813

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Twelve years ago at about this time on Tradesports:

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I still think the current number look pretty accurate (as far as order of most likely to least likely... not necessarily the actual percentages)...

And if you accept that Trump and the 2016 election is a 1 in a million election (maybe due to his 100% name ID... his Apprentice tv show character... or whatever the reason he was able to come out of nowhere and win)... then based on the rest of the prior election stats... the nominee comes from the Top 2 in the Odds at this time in the various elections...

Which means its between O'Rourke & Harris ... which I actually think is correct (with Biden having the outside chance since he's fairly close to Harris in the odds).
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 06:18:12 AM »

Why the hell is Gabbard so high? Are there really people out there who think that she can win the nomination?


Baffles me also- she has no chance.

It will be between Beto, Kamala, and probably Sherrod Brown (he would be a definitely Top 3 Bet IMO, as the dark horse... if his Senate seat were not an issue).
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2019, 05:37:22 AM »
« Edited: April 02, 2019, 05:47:49 AM by SCNCmod »

Biden 20.5
Super overrated. He hasn't even announced yet and is extremely likely to bomb if he does. I do not have him in my top 4 most likely candidates.

Harris 20.1
Should be higher. The most likely candidate currently in my view.

Sanders 20.1
Yeah, sure. I don't think Sanders wins but I have to admit that there are several plausible scenarios where he wins.

O’Rourke 16.8
Too low. I have him second to Harris at the moment. Could bomb for sure, but his upside is massive. Probably the only candidate who could potentially just run away with the primary quickly.

I think this is a pretty good take- with the exception of Harris.  She certainty has a path, But I would put her in 3rd.

I would put the likelihood:
1. Beto
2. Bernie
3. Kamala
4. Booker
5. Biden
6. Pete

Bernie will likely get 20-25% of the vote, but I think 25% is his Max.  Definitely not over 30%.  So he probably stuck with 2nd, regardless of who wins.

I think the race will come down to Beto, Bernie, and 1 other (Kamala or maybe even Booker)

The Key for who is the 3rd candidate will be SC.  After a year of campaigning, I think Beto will end up winning Iowa.  Bernie will win NH. Then Beto wins NV with Bernie in 2nd.  

Then it comes to SC.
Biden is strong in SC, But the state will likely be won by Kamala or Booker (unless they end up completely splitting the AA vote, which is 60% of the Dem Primary vote in SC). Right now Booker and Kamala are pretty even in SC.  But I think Booker might end up connecting more with the AA community in SC (and some of the other southern states as well- where he has put in a lot of time the past couple of years).  If Biden ended up winning SC, then it would be a 4 person race between Beto, Bernie, Biden, whoever prevailed between Kamala/Booker.  If Kamala or Booker wins SC, then Biden is out, and its a 3 person race between Beto, Bernie & Kamala/Booker (whoever wins SC).

So I guess in a way, Booker is the only one I could consider a potential dark horse (since most people consider Biden, Bernie, Beto, Kamala to be the current front runners).  Pete is certainly picking up steam at the moment (and I think could make a very good president), but in a year when beating Trump is such a high priority, I wonder if Dem voters will be willing to take a chance on an under-40, gay, mayor (even though he's Military Vet & Rhodes Scholar).  I'm not saying its not possible, but highly unlikely at this point. (But I do think he will have a Cabinet high position & I also very easily see him being President in the future).

If Kamala wins SC- then the field would go down to Beto, Bernie, Kamala.  At this point I think Beto picks up a large part of Biden's support & Kamala solidifies much of the AA (But there is still part of the older AA community that thinks a black candidate will not win the general election in 2020).  At this point the winner would be Beto or Kamala, whichever can generate the most excitement & whichever (at that point in the race) Dems think is most electable.

Granted if Biden were to win Iowa, all of the above is thrown into the wind- but I do not see him winning Iowa.  He has been on the ground in several previous campaigns for the Dem nominee... and never had a bit of success connecting.
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