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JustinTimeCuber
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« on: January 14, 2017, 03:47:38 PM »

lol yeah Trump faced 16 GOP opponents (a far tougher bench than the clown show of 2012) then defeated the Clinton machine, but his real weakness was a 75 year old socialist from Vermont. Oh no!
The Clinton machine kinda sucks. The only elections Hillary won were when she coasted off name recognition (2016 primaries) and when she was in a solidly blue state (2000, 2006 Senate). Bernie was doing better than Hillary in basically every poll, and his economic agenda is actually popular with a majority of people, for the most part. So yeah, the guy who took down the Burlington establishment in an upset victory to become mayor, the guy who took out an incumbent Republican in the house as an independent, the guy who almost stopped the coronation of Queen Hillary Clinton, he would have lost. Yeah.
Btw we saw Bernie vs. Trump on election night in Wisconsin.

Feingold lost.
Yeah, when running against an incumbent, without having the national attention of a Presidential race, and with the downward pull of Hillary Clinton.
Stop glorifying the candidacy of someone probably incapable of actually doing the job.
lol yeah the guy who's been a mayor for 8 years, a representative for 16 years, and a senator for 10 years is less capable than an 8 year senator, 4 year secretary of state and oligarch, and also less capable than the fascist buffoon tv star billionaire kleptocrat Trump.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 11:11:20 PM »

If Bernie wouldn't have won, who would have? Evan Bayh?

No one. You see, Hillary was the most perfect candidate in the history of America, and the fact that she lost means that obviously the voters are to blame.
A lot of hillbots see this and think, "ofc"
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 05:14:38 PM »

Stop glorifying the candidacy of someone probably incapable of actually doing the job.

...what the hell does this even mean? So not being a technocratic wonk like Clinton = being unfit for office? That's ridiculous.

No. But when economists on your side of the isle criticize your plans for being vague, unrealistic, etc. and you dismiss those criticisms as being in the bag for your opponent instead of acknowledging them and creating a better plan, is a sign that you don't know what you're talking about and will refuse to let facts change your mind.

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/17/10784528/bernie-sanders-single-payer-health-care

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/us/politics/left-leaning-economists-question-cost-of-bernie-sanderss-plans.html


What exactly was Hillary's health care plan? Vague reforms to the ACA? Bernie's was pretty clear: insure everyone. He released a tax policy that explains how to pay for it. What do you want? Do you want him to release the exact legislation he will be pushing for? I can guarantee you that Hillary didn't do that.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2017, 05:19:15 PM »

Because center-right corporatists are great at appealing to the Democratic base...
wait...
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 11:49:38 PM »

Same way that Hillary is center-right: "I want to drag this [among Western countries] right-wing country a little bit left maybe and oh yeah Wall Street is awesome"
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