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houseonaboat
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« on: March 21, 2017, 08:41:32 PM »

So people are just happy to have a 79 year old nominee who'd be 88 years old should he make it to a 2nd term... I mean I know people like Bernie but the party needs to move past the geriatrics.

Sounds pretty ageist to me.

Doesn't make it wrong. Father Time is undefeated. Perfectly fair to ask how someone who'll be 83 by the end of his term -- which is roughly the lifespan of an American male -- is capable of doing the job of president.

And 2016 polls of the GOP field in 2013 -

Rubio 24%
Christie 15%
Ryan 14%
Jeb 13%

And for Democrats...

Hillary 59%
Biden 26%
Cuomo 12%
Warren 12%

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houseonaboat
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2017, 12:19:53 AM »

Is anyone seriously entertaining the idea of Hillary Clinton running again in 2020? Or is this referring to Chelsea Clinton and I haven't caught on?

I'd say of course it's referring to Hillary and not Chelsea, but this poll has the WTF of Michelle Obama in second place, so who knows.

It's name ID at this point. Rubio, Christie, Paul Ryan and Jeb were the top 4 choices in a 2013 poll of the 2016 field.
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houseonaboat
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 02:08:27 PM »

I honestly don't know who the Dems can field right now that would be acceptable to all wings of the party.

I really don't think it would be all that difficult to rally both wings of the party in the end, considering how much the base detests Donald Trump.  Gillibrand and Franken are two senators who initially come to mind, and there are probably many more candidates who would compel most Dems to go to the polls.  It'll only take someone as lukewarm as Booker or Cuomo to turn off large segments of the base.

It amazes me how people find Gillibrand, who legitimately caucused as a Blue Dog Dem, more progressive in any meaningful way than Booker. She voted to deregulate swaps as recently as 2010.
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