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« on: January 25, 2017, 07:06:18 PM »

1. Many people my age love Donald Trump (really the only exception are the feminists and LGBTs for the most part) although have reservations about expressing it (I'm somewhat open about this, so I have to deal with ignorant arguments while the liberal kids automatically dismiss my opinion as fake since it didn't come from CNN and/or agree with theirs); this belief that children are permanently put off from Trump is a total lie. A lot of schools, including my neighborhood's elementary, didn't talk about the election (unlike 2012); plus they're too young to remember all the things MSM made up about the Donald (and teenagers are too young to remember Dubya and early days of Obama) and are more likely to be influenced by their parents saying "Trump's plan for money means we can go on a vacation!" I'd hardly call it the redpilling of a generation, but younger voters will be nothing like Millennials (a lot of Gen Zers view Millennials as a bunch of selfish latte liberals and wackjob SJWs).

2. Trump's most likely going to fire up an investigation into voter fraud, and considering what happened with Detroit I wouldn't be surprised seeing it elsewhere (in fact, I'd be surprised if nothing came up) and regardless, by the time I can vote in 2020 I'll probably need a voter ID, which I'd 100% support- when I went with my dad when he voted in November, literally all they do is ask for your name and street and then give you a form.

3. Trump has been president for five days, let's give it some time before trash-talking his job as president. (there's plenty Trump has planned for his first 100 days

4. Not every immigrant hates Trump. In fact, several I know (including my dad, plus my family in Ireland) love him.
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DPKdebator
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 08:21:27 PM »

1. Many people my age love Donald Trump (really the only exception are the feminists and LGBTs for the most part) although have reservations about expressing it (I'm somewhat open about this, so I have to deal with ignorant arguments while the liberal kids automatically dismiss my opinion as fake since it didn't come from CNN and/or agree with theirs); this belief that children are permanently put off from Trump is a total lie. A lot of schools, including my neighborhood's elementary, didn't talk about the election (unlike 2012); plus they're too young to remember all the things MSM made up about the Donald (and teenagers are too young to remember Dubya and early days of Obama) and are more likely to be influenced by their parents saying "Trump's plan for money means we can go on a vacation!" I'd hardly call it the redpilling of a generation, but younger voters will be nothing like Millennials (a lot of Gen Zers view Millennials as a bunch of selfish latte liberals and wackjob SJWs).

2. Trump's most likely going to fire up an investigation into voter fraud, and considering what happened with Detroit I wouldn't be surprised seeing it elsewhere (in fact, I'd be surprised if nothing came up) and regardless, by the time I can vote in 2020 I'll probably need a voter ID, which I'd 100% support- when I went with my dad when he voted in November, literally all they do is ask for your name and street and then give you a

3. Trump has been president for five days, let's give it some time before trash-talking his job as president. (there's plenty Trump has planned for his first 100 days

4. Not every immigrant hates Trump. In fact, several I know (including my dad, plus my family in Ireland) love him.
1. Lol. Just no. Your situation =/= other people your age and their views of Trump. Polls of Gen Z have him pretty well despised. And it makes no intuitive sense either that they'd love him considering Z is almosg majority-minority.

2. This is just f-ing devoid of any fact. If you think for a second that millions (or even thousands) voted illegally, I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

3. Fair, but the oublic has generally negative views of most of his major policy proposals aside from Childcare and repeal of ACA.

4. Again, the "personal anecdote" fallacy.

1. My views hardly represent Gen Z as a whole, and my statement was mostly based off people I know in real life. Polls are often a good indicator, but again, they don't always represent a group of people as a whole. The word "many" doesn't mean all or even a majority in several cases.

2. I never claimed millions voted illegally, although there were discrepancies in Detroit.

3. Not every poll has Gen Zers despising Trump: this survey here found saw Trump have predominant support 34%-20%.
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