Should the Electoral College be abolished?

[BG-NY]

Of course not.

As an aside, there's a decent change the national "popular" vote is to the right of tipping point in 2028. Will be interesting to see, if TalkElections is still around then, if blue and red avys have changed their minds.

[BG-NY]

Of course not.

As an aside, there's a decent change the national "popular" vote is to the right of tipping point in 2028. Will be interesting to see, if TalkElections is still around then, if blue and red avys have changed their minds.

Of course? I have never heard a real argument for why it should remain so you'll need to elaborate.

Change for the sake of change is not change worth pursuing. It is incumbent on the side that supports a position different from the status quo to convince those who don’t mind it.

There is a lot of speculation about whether one party or the other would win the so-called “popular” vote. Of the top ten states by population, 7/10 are competed in by both parties every presidential election, while the other three are only touched by republicans in midterms/downballot.

You know who would love a national “popular” vote election? TV networks and digital advertising platforms. If every vote in every state is counted, you would see level of spend increase by an order of magnitude.

[BG-NY]

Of course not.

As an aside, there's a decent change the national "popular" vote is to the right of tipping point in 2028. Will be interesting to see, if TalkElections is still around then, if blue and red avys have changed their minds.

Of course? I have never heard a real argument for why it should remain so you'll need to elaborate.

Change for the sake of change is not change worth pursuing. It is incumbent on the side that supports a position different from the status quo to convince those who don’t mind it.

There is a lot of speculation about whether one party or the other would win the so-called “popular” vote. Of the top ten states by population, 7/10 are competed in by both parties every presidential election, while the other three are only touched by republicans in midterms/downballot.

You know who would love a national “popular” vote election? TV networks and digital advertising platforms. If every vote in every state is counted, you would see level of spend increase by an order of magnitude.

Change for the sake of change? This is change for a more democratic form of government not just some trendy thing

This is the thought process:

(1) Democrats have won the “popular” vote 7 of the last 8 elections, while Republicans have won the presidency 3 of the last 8 elections.
(2) The fact that there were two elections in which Democrats won the “popular” vote and lost the presidency means the will of the people was not voiced.
(3) The will of the people would be voiced if we dropped electors and counted the “popular” vote by summing up the total vote in each state.

Problem is there is a massive leap in 2. It takes as a given that the outcomes would necessarily change if both parties knew going into a presidential cycle that the “popular” vote is all that matters. In reality, that’s an unknown.

Trading the status quo for a much more expensive alternative that would not necessarily have a different outcome is definitely change for the sake of change.