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« on: January 19, 2017, 01:52:03 PM »
« edited: January 19, 2017, 02:01:07 PM by ERM64man »

As long as they don't try to pull some weird shenanigans like implementing a caucus for California and putting all of the meeting places in Mendocino County, I'm fine with this. Parties should be run by their grassroots elements (as long as they know what they're doing) so you don't have a situation of an clear victory being marred by charges of illegitimacy like DWS so kindly gave us last year.
If the party replaces the primary with a caucus, my relatives who are mostly Democrats (who voted for Hillary Clinton; many who live in very conservative neighborhoods like I do) would never turn out, and they almost always turn out for primaries. Do you think the state's party will actually replace the primary with a caucus?
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2017, 04:00:19 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2017, 04:07:58 PM by ERM64man »

I mean, California uses a top-two primary for every office except President, so I'm not sure how much the state party leadership really has...
The party leadership can't decide how non-presidential races are decided. The leadership might be very powerful, but is barred by law from changing the non-presidential primary method because of the jungle primary. Might the state's party implement a Presidential caucus?
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2017, 05:39:33 PM »

If the party replaces the primary with a voter-less convention (even worse than a caucus) like the Colorado GOP had in 2016, being registered as a Democrat in California will become useless because there would be no Democratic primaries or even caucuses to vote in.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 10:07:58 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2017, 10:31:05 PM by ERM64man »

Before anyone tries to claim that the party was already liberal, every top Democrat in the state endorsed Hillary in the primary. She got all the superdelegates. And the party declined to endorse 2012's Prop 39, a progressive tax which passed with 61% of the vote.

Clinton was basically identical to sanders at that point.

Taking over parties through abuse of turnout in undemocratic caucuses shouldn't be celebrated.
Will the California party end up replacing the primary with a caucus or convention with no preference vote like the Colorado GOP and Wyoming GOP?
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