Politico: Biden admin isn’t fully convinced Ukraine can win, even with new aid

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Woody with another “Ukraine is doomed pay attention to me!” Threads and the first comment is Red Velvet with a variation of his “Ukraine deserves what it getting for daring to want to be Western allied. Long live the BRICS” post. Just a 1-2 punch of awful lol

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But wait, I was constantly reminded that bringing this up you were a Russian simp. Have the Russians infiltrated the Biden admin now?

The difference is that when the Biden admin brings it up, it's because they're concerned and want the situation to change. When you bring it up, it's because you're happy.

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But wait, I was constantly reminded that bringing this up you were a Russian simp. Have the Russians infiltrated the Biden admin now?

The difference is that when the Biden admin brings it up, it's because they're concerned and want the situation to change. When you bring it up, it's because you're happy.

So you admit that Woody isn't wrong (and may have been right for months, if not years), you're just upset by what you believe to be his real motives in thinking it? Has Woody ever actually given good reason to think he supports Putin, other than being pessimistic as to Ukraine's long term battlefield odds?

The article if you read it is about how the Pentagon is saying new aid won’t result in Ukraine knocking Russia out of the territory it holds, Woody on multiple occasions (even this year) has said Russia is going to take over the whole of Ukraine. So ya he’s wrong when the article in question he’s trying to say supports him doesn’t at all. Also you seriously are not trying to act like Woody is pro-Russia when even OSR says he is?

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I'm no.... miltiary expert, but can someone with knowledge in that area, tell us if Russia or Ukraine are winning ?

...Ukraine will almost inevitably join both NATO and the EU when all is said and done...

Stopped reading right here. Reading this sentence reminds me of that one scene in Downfall, when Hitler is consulting with his remaining generals, and he points and commands armies that only exist in his maps.

The excuses people come up with to delude themselves to keep driving up this war is very sad. I would have said funny, but since people are dying because of the consequences of this thought process it's honestly depressing.

It probably won’t be de jure joining NATO but you can bet the US will provide informal security guarantees and arm Kyiv (Yes it’s Kyiv not Kiev, troll) to the teeth when all is said and done. Did you expect the rest of Ukraine to just bend over and prepare for Putin’s next f**king?

Why?

Are you asking this out of genuine curiosity or out of SirWoodbury level Putin concern trolling? Not sure because if it’s the former, see the response above and if it’s the latter, pound sand m***erf***er

Curiosity, although I must admit that the tone of the latter response rather inclines me towards a skepticism of what you advocate for.

So instead of just doing a simple google search on proper Ukrainian spelling of Kyiv you’re going to be skeptical that it is the proper spelling because ForumLurker was snarky to you?

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I'm no.... miltiary expert, but can someone with knowledge in that area, tell us if Russia or Ukraine are winning ?

...Ukraine will almost inevitably join both NATO and the EU when all is said and done...

Stopped reading right here. Reading this sentence reminds me of that one scene in Downfall, when Hitler is consulting with his remaining generals, and he points and commands armies that only exist in his maps.

The excuses people come up with to delude themselves to keep driving up this war is very sad. I would have said funny, but since people are dying because of the consequences of this thought process it's honestly depressing.

It probably won’t be de jure joining NATO but you can bet the US will provide informal security guarantees and arm Kyiv (Yes it’s Kyiv not Kiev, troll) to the teeth when all is said and done. Did you expect the rest of Ukraine to just bend over and prepare for Putin’s next f**king?

Why?

Are you asking this out of genuine curiosity or out of SirWoodbury level Putin concern trolling? Not sure because if it’s the former, see the response above and if it’s the latter, pound sand m***erf***er

Curiosity, although I must admit that the tone of the latter response rather inclines me towards a skepticism of what you advocate for.

So instead of just doing a simple google search on proper Ukrainian spelling of Kyiv you’re going to be skeptical that it is the proper spelling because ForumLurker was snarky to you?

I’m well aware of the arguments that I can find online (as should be rather obvious from my Acre/Akko question from the previous page): what I’m interested in hearing is why ForumLurker believes the proper spelling is Kyiv.

Because it’s the way Ukrainians do? It’s pretty simple

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Apples and oranges, “Acre” is rooted in Latin and Greek spelling of the city, the West spelling of “Kiev” is because that was what Russia called it. Again a simple google search on the two places names would of shown the difference

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This is the only take you need to bother with on this topic:

No spin, no bullsh*t, just a straight analysis of the situation.

Ah a fellow Perun fan, nice to see you’re a man of culture as well

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I think the solution is for NATO to kick Russia out of Ukraine and hope that Putin and his people treasure their lives enough to not start a nuclear war.

I think the solution is to split Ukraine in half.
The Russians get their half, and the West keeps the western half.
Then the reduced Ukraine gets admitted to NATO.

That would never happen. Ukraine would never support it, thus, neither would the Biden administration.

I am not talking about the incompetent Biden administration here.

Calling anyone “incompetent” after your big brain take is serious pot and kettle energy

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Russia pressing in the Donbas is one thing but actually doing a summer co into the Kharkiv area is really risky that could easily blow up in their face and speed up the dreaded “run out of storage tanks and ivf” clock that Kofman loves to talk about

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Russia pressing in the Donbas is one thing but actually doing a summer co into the Kharkiv area is really risky that could easily blow up in their face and speed up the dreaded “run out of storage tanks and ivf” clock that Kofman loves to talk about

It smells to me like wanting to stretch Ukrainian lines thinner. Kharkiv is not currently a front. If the Ukrainians are forced to defend against the threat of a Kharkiv operation, those troops are not helping defend somewhere else on the front line.

But Ukraine did reinforce the area along with fortifying it as well so they might not need to divert troops out of the Donbas to stop it not to mention in turn whatever Russian losses there could of also been used to press in the Donbas

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Russia pressing in the Donbas is one thing but actually doing a summer co into the Kharkiv area is really risky that could easily blow up in their face and speed up the dreaded “run out of storage tanks and ivf” clock that Kofman loves to talk about

It smells to me like wanting to stretch Ukrainian lines thinner. Kharkiv is not currently a front. If the Ukrainians are forced to defend against the threat of a Kharkiv operation, those troops are not helping defend somewhere else on the front line.

But Ukraine did reinforce the area along with fortifying it as well so they might not need to divert troops out of the Donbas to stop it not to mention in turn whatever Russian losses there could of also been used to press in the Donbas

So the Kharkiv border wasn’t as fortified as I thought but Ukraine has contain the Russian push to some greyzone villages with heavy casualties and not pulling troops out of the Donbas so the prediction wasn’t that far off