Why are Republicans so obsessed with drag queens right now?

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Because some time in January or February a bunch of republicans meet at some evil fortress of doom hosted by the heritage foundation or one of those other evil groups were a hired pollster like Frank Luntz told them that the results of a focus group showed that by linking trans and gay people to grooming kids can be a winning issue and now they using drag shows to help promote this idea

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If something is not happening outside a few bad apples than you should have no problem banning it cause by your definition not much would change. By calling the side who wants to ban it bigots then by definition you are implying your side has something to hide which is why the spin of "This isnt happening but you are a bigot if you oppose it" has failed miserably

OSR why do you constantly ignore the fact that be it the policy pushed by republicans show they mean to target gay people in general and a lot of this drag show outrage is bad faith cover? Like you don’t get to hand wave off the Texas law as something you don’t support but then attack the leftist posters were worried about the actual endgame of all this as hysteria

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The problem I have with your argument here Dale is what exactly does “pick your battles” mean in this context? Does it mean to simply to ignore all this “drag queens and gay teachers talking sex to kids” stuff the right is pushing? Because if so you are seriously not giving enough credence to the fact alot of this outrage is bad faith cover and the political actions the right is taking over the outrage is main at curtailing gay rights in general. So if the left disarms on this there is a serious risk to basic gay rights being undermined here

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I've also made it clear that regardless of partisan politics I think that wokeness is terrible and destructive for the country, so of course I want to see its influence gone.

People here know that I'm fairly anti-woke (within reason), but Republican policies are 100x worse for America than Woke Twitter. It isn't even close.

I know, that's why I'm so disgusted when college-educated people ruin the left's reputation and risk losing elections to Republicans just so they can die on the hill of woke BS.

Define?

15 years ago, equal marriage was seen as 'PC bs'. A vote loser. A distraction.

And yet we still managed to get there, didn't we?

We got there by ignoring your advice to let Republicans control the narrative.

Oh no, not at all. It's possible that we never would've gotten gay marriage if the left and Democrats were doing what they do now.

Sorry Dale but your arguments here are coming off a nostalgia bias as alot of what you are saying the left is doing wrong here to alienate people on trans issues is the exact same arguments people were saying they did wrong 15 years ago on gay rights 

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I've also made it clear that regardless of partisan politics I think that wokeness is terrible and destructive for the country, so of course I want to see its influence gone.

People here know that I'm fairly anti-woke (within reason), but Republican policies are 100x worse for America than Woke Twitter. It isn't even close.

I know, that's why I'm so disgusted when college-educated people ruin the left's reputation and risk losing elections to Republicans just so they can die on the hill of woke BS.

Define?

15 years ago, equal marriage was seen as 'PC bs'. A vote loser. A distraction.

And yet we still managed to get there, didn't we?

We got there by ignoring your advice to let Republicans control the narrative.

Oh no, not at all. It's possible that we never would've gotten gay marriage if the left and Democrats were doing what they do now.

Sorry Dale but your arguments here are coming off a nostalgia bias as alot of what you are saying the left is doing wrong here to alienate people on trans issues is the exact same arguments people were saying they did wrong 15 years ago on gay rights 

Gay marriage never involved changing yourself biologically.

Thanks for proving my point because 15 years ago if someone drew a comparison between civil rights of the 60’s with gay marriage there’d likely be a comment like yours scoffing at the notion because civil rights “never had to do with condoning degeneracy” or something along those lines. 

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I've also made it clear that regardless of partisan politics I think that wokeness is terrible and destructive for the country, so of course I want to see its influence gone.

People here know that I'm fairly anti-woke (within reason), but Republican policies are 100x worse for America than Woke Twitter. It isn't even close.

I know, that's why I'm so disgusted when college-educated people ruin the left's reputation and risk losing elections to Republicans just so they can die on the hill of woke BS.

Define?

15 years ago, equal marriage was seen as 'PC bs'. A vote loser. A distraction.

And yet we still managed to get there, didn't we?

We got there by ignoring your advice to let Republicans control the narrative.

Oh no, not at all. It's possible that we never would've gotten gay marriage if the left and Democrats were doing what they do now.

Sorry Dale but your arguments here are coming off a nostalgia bias as alot of what you are saying the left is doing wrong here to alienate people on trans issues is the exact same arguments people were saying they did wrong 15 years ago on gay rights  

Gay marriage never involved changing yourself biologically.

Thanks for proving my point because 15 years ago if someone drew a comparison between civil rights of the 60’s with gay marriage there’d likely be a comment like yours scoffing at the notion because civil rights “never had to do with condoning degeneracy” or something along those lines.  

You do realize I'm gay, right? In fact my first post here was 17 years ago. It was citing a poll that showed how much more popular gay marriage was among the youth than the older generations at the time.

Point is ssm was such (and still is) a winning issue because it involved two consenting adults making a choice together. No surgeries, no open questions about what gender is, no confusing academic reasoning, just two consenting adults in love. Many of the difficult matters relating to trans rights involve a minor making permanent, irreversible changes to their body. So obviously there's going to be more pushback as the two issues have nothing to do with one another.

Yes that’s why I deliberately compared the two as I figured you’d sympathize considering you went through these same hurdles yourself. Also again not even the trans poster here advocate kids getting surgery 

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Imagine being such a sensitive snowflake that you are offended by a dude in a dress reading to kids.

There are certain things that are inappropriate and should not be funded through taxpayer money

Explain to me, what the fundamental difference is between a man in a dress reading a book to kids and a woman in a dress reading a book to kids? What specifically makes it inappropriate, other than men usually not wearing dresses?

Drag Queen is not the same as a costume

Just so everybody is 100% clear, the reason the Republicans like OSR who aren't blatant bigots hate this is that they genuinely believe that society forcing cisgenderism and brainwashing kids with it is objectively morally good, and anything else is bad. They typically equate "not forcing cisgenderism on kids" with "encouraging kids to become trans". In other words, just treating kids like kids without trying to push them into a certain gender mindset is completely and totally unacceptable for Republicans. You MUST do your part to raise a generation of cisgender kids, or you're an enemy of society.

No, your side encourages kids to become trans and calls it "not forcing cisgenderism on kids," which is an absurd concept since boys generally don't need to be forced to be boys, nor do girls need to be forced to be girls.

It’s always projection with you guys isn’t it?

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But your side does do that. Or, wants to do that, if they're not able to already. Your side has said in plain English that that is a goal of theirs.

Outside of a few extremists on Twitter, and Peebs a few posts above me, 98 or 99% of leftists do not do that or want that done. This is a fringe minority that the right wing is hyper-focused on. Most people just want gay kids to be gay and sraight kids to be straight, same for cis and trans, without schools trying to push them to be any particular way.

Such a fringe minority that I had to travel a whole two posts before finding someone saying exactly what you claim hardly anybody is saying.

Apples and oranges, you’ve been going around accusing “the left” or forcing/brainwashing people into being trans while Peebs was bemoaning how much easier growing up trabs would of been if it wasn’t stigmatized