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Hindsight was 2020
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« on: January 19, 2021, 06:22:55 PM »



*chef’s kiss*
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2021, 08:00:54 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2021, 08:45:03 PM »

Maybe he just doesn't want authoritarian government from the left or right?


Oh yes, the famously liberal, pro-journalist Putin regime which Greenwald has relentlessly defended is not an example of authoritarian government AT ALL.

Have a link to any of these articles? I cannot find them and I've only read his pieces last couple years or so.
it says something that we never got a response to this.  Should be simple to find a few articles or Tweets if he "relentlessly defended".  A lot of red avatars "liked" the post, so this should be really easy.  Yet here we are.


<I did some casual Googling for you, and I ain't finding sh**t.  A lot of people saying he's defended Putin, but the only thing he seems to have said was that it's wrong to say that Putin stole the election for Trump, which is a 100% accurate thing to say.  Ball is in your court.>

Also, keep in mind that I do not like Putin or Russia (I'm an American of a certain age, it's in our blood), so it won't take much to get me to agree with you here, I'm just not seeing it.
Well tbf the comment demanded articles whileGG defense of Putin is mainly on Twitter but if your want examples of that we got two articles here
https://www.thehill.com/hilltv/rising/484370-glenn-greenwald-interference-from-the-national-intelligence-community-is-more%3famp
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/09/03/glenn-greenwald-the-bane-of-their-resistance
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2021, 07:33:24 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2021, 09:10:59 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 09:25:32 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 08:22:01 AM »

Okay for those who arguing “oh this is just sexism with critics saying this fragile woman can’t handle criticism”, the problem people have this targeting her isn’t that we think she can’t handle criticism but because Glenn has a notorious troll fan base and why making her the target he is unleashing these rabid dogs on her
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 11:01:11 PM »
« Edited: April 07, 2021, 06:38:04 AM by Hindsight was 2020 »

Good review of the positive impact Greenwald's journalism has had in Brazil and the importance of his work in freeing Lula. The haters will, of course, ignore this to focus on his nasty tweets.


A contrarian 🌹 Twitter political magazine writing a Glenn fluff piece isn’t the good counterpoint you think it is
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2021, 06:41:59 AM »
« Edited: April 07, 2021, 03:44:15 PM by Hindsight was 2020 »

So basically he supports the right in America but the left in Brazil?
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Putin, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, and Trump are very authoritarian figures and Glenn has bend over backwards to defend them so to say he’s anti-authoritarian doesn’t mesh with his actions
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2021, 11:12:39 AM »


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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2021, 10:46:17 PM »

Greenwald has been disingenuous and unprofessional for a long time now. It was only a few years ago that he was smearing everyone from Bill Maher to Sam Harris as crazy fascist neoconservatives (LOL) for criticizing fundamentalist Islamic violence. He seems to move from one prominent issue to another looking for an excuse to trash every prominent media figure he can without offering any of his own substantive commentary.

Bashing Islam is such an easy position in US and Europe today though, often (not always) bordering on islamophobia. Especially in Europe, where tensions are higher and everything becomes an excuse to mistreat EVERY people who follow the religion based on isolated actions of some groups.

While for other racial or religious groups this doesn’t happen because of their privilege in western society. Other fundamentalist groups (radical evangelical Christians; zionists; etc) don’t get nearly the same type of backlash and there are always media defenders coming to their rescue saying that Christians are being discriminated, that Zionists are suffering antisemitism; etc. So why not a voice to defend Muslims, considering the hate they get is much much bigger and generalized?

The current development of the Israel-Palestine conflict is also evidence of this. I think it’s good that Glenn is siding with the more underprivileged who are the biggest targets of bigotry because they need someone to defend them in order to make things more balanced. Everyone else has much stronger and more established bases of support and safe spaces, as islamophobia is treated as a non-issue in the west (while Islam is considered a problem).


He wasn't defending Muslims in the US, and he still isn't now especially given how defensive he is of extremist, anti-Muslim Republicans. He was smearing liberal critics of fundamentalist religion and, more importantly, was not offering anything resembling a coherent criticism of their comments. It was typical "Everyone who disagrees with me is a very bad person" talk that you hear from hacks all the time. Greenwald's conflicts with other media personalities almost always resemble internet drama more than they do legitimate disagreements. If Greenwald weren't so disingenuous and questionable regarding his motives, then it would be much easier for me to respect him as a reasonable person that I happen to disagree with, but he's unprofessional and unprofessional people are something that modern journalism desperately needs to separate itself from. Greenwald is an agenda first, truth second journalist and is just another one of many, many people that have contributed to the destruction of journalists' credibility in recent years.


But what do you think his “agenda” is? What is his political end goal?

I don’t disagree that he has a political agenda, but I think everyone in the media has and forever will. What I like about Glenn is that he’s very vocal and honest about it, doesn’t try to hide it and makes it clear to everyone that he has a side in order to make them know what they’re getting into.

Basically, I guess it all comes down on whether you’re ideologically aligned with the person. If you agree with their agenda you will like them, if you disagree then you won’t. Kinda like how some libertarians love Ayn Rand but it’s like, a niche thing of theirs. Glenn is that type of niche journalist, with a very specific target audience.

When journalists sell themselves as “impartial” it makes them less controversial and gives them broader appeal (they can reach multiple groups) but it also rings fake because they will eventually hint to which side they lean towards too. Which leads to some people looking for alternative types of journalism. I think everyone always has an agenda, no exceptions, because every aspect of life is political. What you eat, your job, your relationship with your family, everything.

The destruction of the US as a global power
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2021, 07:06:23 AM »

I said “ The destruction of the US as a global power” I said nothing of his political ideology from where that desire comes from. When it comes to his ideology preference his history shows he’s a right winger in leftist clothing from his support to Iraq War to his current simping for Tucker Carlson. He gets confused for a leftist because of his supposed support of Bernie and how his criticism of Obama seem to come from a leftist angle but they were both just fueled by the fact he had a personal grudge with figures and institution in the US at the time that was perceived to not like Bernie at the time just like his work in Brazil is fueled by his personal ax to grind of Bolsonaro and granted this style for once worked out as he beefed with a legitimately bad person but their are also plenty of other journalists in Brazil who have done a great job taking on Bolsonaro without having the baggage of being buddies with crypto fascists like Glenn does
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2021, 09:55:22 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2021, 08:29:12 AM »

Anybody who's a civil libertarian should appreciate what Greenwald does. That the left does not anymore is an indication of who they've become, not him.
Because nothing says “civil libertarian” like running defense for the administration that ordered the FBI to deliberately crackdown harder on BLM compared to others and were making antifa protestors disappear in black vans
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2021, 11:21:10 AM »



Lmao he has an hour-long video about Hunter Biden's laptop
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2022, 03:11:14 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2023, 10:30:20 AM »

Hilarious to look back at 2021 and think Glenn had achieved his final form then.
I jumped the gun on the thread title lol
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