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« on: October 06, 2019, 10:05:02 PM »
« edited: October 08, 2019, 10:31:10 AM by Grand Mufti of NY »



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In 2016 we saw a pair of electoral revolts, one on the right and one on the left, against the cratering popularity of our political elite. The rightist populist revolt succeeded, the Sanders movement did not. Ukrainegate to me looks like a continuation of Russiagate, which was a reaction of that defeated political elite to the rightists. I don’t feel solidarity with either group.
The argument that’s supposed to be galvanizing everyone right now is the idea that we need to “stand up and be counted,” because failing to rally to the cause is effectively advocacy for Trump. This line of thinking is based on the presumption that Trump is clearly worse than the people opposing him.
God will he just join Tracey on Fox already the hack fruad
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2019, 10:28:15 PM »

As someone who has enjoyed Taibbi's writing over the years, I have to say that  he (and other anti-establishment journalists generally perceived as "left", such as Glen Greenwald) have been discrediting themselves throughout Mr. Trump's time on the national political spotlight. Most recently it's been the utter hypocrisy of people who approved and (in Greenwald's case) played an essential role in Edward Snowden's whistleblowing (which I approved, because good faith whistleblowing is a good thing) and who are now outraged and critical of recent whistleblowing (which I also approve, because good faith whistleblowing is a good thing) that exposes the Trump administrations crimes and incompetence.

And its not just these guys, it's a whole spectrum of "far left" reporting that is just utterly unwilling to even consider the idea that our established political institutions and power structures (even though they are very problematic) could possibly be preferable to a raving madman conducting an open assault on representative government and America's more positive ideals. I'm talking the type of reporting that has spent the last four years eager to repeated any attack on the Democratic establishment, no matter how poorly sourced, but is clearly extremely reluctant to report on even Mr. Trump's most heinous violations of the law.
As I said back in the Russiagate days it’s clear that “leftist” like Taibbi secretly root on Trump because they want him to do irreversible damage to the government. Also it’s clear like Russiagate that Taibbi thinks Biden probably deserves it he will gladly be a shield for Trump 
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2019, 12:27:11 PM »

I just don’t get how someone as nice as Bernie gets such douchebag followers like this
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2019, 11:21:53 PM »


Lol
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 09:53:53 PM »

This thread is about Taibbi’s awful take on the whistleblower not Hillary giving fundraising speeches
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2019, 11:25:56 PM »



Awful takes seem to be his general MO these days.
Russiagate broke him
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2019, 03:16:34 PM »


Welp he’s done it. Matt has dropped the facade and admitted he likes Trump
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2019, 06:19:15 PM »

Seriously. He hates establishment democrats so much he is honestly arguing that Pelosi is somehow more dangerous then the kid concentration camp guy.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2019, 06:49:33 PM »

Seriously. He hates establishment democrats so much he is honestly arguing that Pelosi is somehow more dangerous then the kid concentration camp guy.
This is a really revealing comment regarding what Democrats think about the Kievan Ruse.
Not as revealing as you calling it a “Ruse” when Trump releases a transcript confirming what the whistleblower said
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2019, 07:40:09 PM »

Seriously. He hates establishment democrats so much he is honestly arguing that Pelosi is somehow more dangerous then the kid concentration camp guy.
This is a really revealing comment regarding what Democrats think about the Kievan Ruse.
Not as revealing as you calling it a “Ruse” when Trump releases a transcript confirming what the whistleblower said
...You realize that the primary arguments of the Left have become the "whistleblower complaint" and the "lack of cooperation from the White House" precisely because the phone call didn't confirm that the allegations were correct, right?
Yes it totally did cultist. Or are you arguing that it’s pure coincidence that Trump says “I need you to do me a favor” right after the Ukraine president begged for missiles
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2019, 04:09:21 PM »

Seriously. He hates establishment democrats so much he is honestly arguing that Pelosi is somehow more dangerous then the kid concentration camp guy.
This is a really revealing comment regarding what Democrats think about the Kievan Ruse.
Not as revealing as you calling it a “Ruse” when Trump releases a transcript confirming what the whistleblower said
...You realize that the primary arguments of the Left have become the "whistleblower complaint" and the "lack of cooperation from the White House" precisely because the phone call didn't confirm that the allegations were correct, right?
Yes it totally did cultist. Or are you arguing that it’s pure coincidence that Trump says “I need you to do me a favor” right after the Ukraine president begged for missiles
I guess you haven't read it then. Do you know what the "whistleblower" alleged?
Yep have it right here and you mind telling me were in Trump’s transcripts the following doesn’t happen:
1) Trump pressured Zelenskyy to initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of Joe Biden and his son Hunter
2) meet with Giuliani and Barr on this and other matters
3) Assists in uncovering if the Russian investigation started in Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2019/09/24/whistleblower-complaint/assets/amp.html
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2019, 08:52:00 PM »

In absolute fairness to Nuke, "Kievan Ruse" is a fantastic phrase that people who support the impeachment inquiry are using as well. The question is who's perpetrating the ruse.
The problem is he means “ruse” as in the democrats are making this up or some sh*t
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2019, 08:20:04 PM »



He’s back and worse then ever
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2019, 08:33:07 PM »

It’s actually amazing the Mueller report in no way shape or form reflect Matt’s Russiagate theories yet he runs around claiming this validation on the topic
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2019, 12:02:22 AM »
« Edited: November 12, 2019, 10:21:29 AM by Hindsight is 2020 »

Honestly the thing about Taibbi that really bugged me was when the Barr letter came out, Taibbi did  this victory lap in the Rolling Stone comparing Russiagate to the WMD story and on Chapo Trap House about how vindicated he was. And in both the article and on Chapo he kept using this term of media “not questioning power” on Russiagate and it pissed me off because he was basing said victory lap on taking Barr's letter at face value. Then in what was like a couple of days we find out about the letter Mueller sent to Barr saying he lied and the later we got the actual report showing Barr lied but Taibbi has never acknowledge this or his massive hypocisy on the issue. It's like he acts the Mueller report doesn't exist and we live in a world were Barr's letter is the only conclusion we got from Russiagate
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2019, 11:13:54 AM »

I’m sorry I was wrong and Taibbi was right clearly nothing was going on with Trump and Russia
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2020, 12:49:16 AM »

Bumping this old thread up thanks to Matt once again being an a**clown

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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2020, 04:04:50 PM »

Fresh update:
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2020, 10:55:39 AM »

Bump
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2020, 11:40:15 AM »

Except it isn’t. His whole premise is the definition of bad faith case in point


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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2020, 12:43:01 PM »

You can make the argument that social media companies should censor content that hurts your side within a set time period of an election but I certainly don't think that invalidates his point.
Yes it does. Throwing aside the fact the Steele Dossier has more public interest information in it then what the Post published. He’s arguing that the Steele was held to some unfair lower standard when the rebuttal tweets sHow that isn’t the case
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2020, 10:18:37 PM »

You can make the argument that social media companies should censor content that hurts your side within a set time period of an election but I certainly don't think that invalidates his point.
Yes it does. Throwing aside the fact the Steele Dossier has more public interest information in it then what the Post published. He’s arguing that the Steele was held to some unfair lower standard when the rebuttal tweets sHow that isn’t the case
You realize that Dougherty's tweet is not making that point, yes? He's pointing out that, even though there was lots of specific, easy-to-find evidence that undercut the veracity of the dossier, those specific inaccuracies were not noted when it was published; they just slapped on a disclaimer instead of attempting to verify the accuracy of the material they were publishing. Dougherty is arguing that Steele was held to a lower standard; I am glad we all agree on this point!
The Post had never put a disclaimer on this garbage so by default Steele wasn’t held to a low standard and I like how you along with the Greenwald’s and Taibbi’s of the world rip on the Steele dossier as debunked when the Senate GOP itself released a final report on Russiagate confirming a lot of what Steele said along with the NYT’s Trump tax returns
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2021, 08:17:59 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2021, 08:37:08 AM »

2022 edition:

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2023, 08:12:29 AM »
« Edited: March 31, 2023, 12:25:17 PM by Hindsight was 2020 »


Bumping up my old thread cause Matt is on a role
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