To my fellow Democrats/liberals: Stop saying Republican voters are stupid.

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Libtard that is all

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the fact that the Republicans are clearly being lied to and they don't care. Therefore, they are either deplorable or stupid. Perhaps it is bad strategy to say it out loud, but it remains true.

And this, my friends, is the reason as to why the Democrats are more and more becoming a party of the upper to border Atlantic states, and of the west coast, with a smattering of support in the Midwest.

It is an attitude such as this that leads to complacency, arrogance, and decline.

You know, if you tune into right wing media...their always insulting urbanites in big cities. Michael Savage loves to slam San Francisco making it sound like people are having groupsex in the streets, and Fox news loves to go around NYC and insult people and make them look stupid...especially any protesters that look like how rural Conservatives imagine NYCers to look.

Get off your high horse.

Yeah, just like how the GOP is in no way condescending towards urbanites, college grads or Millennials in general. Smh

An condescending is far worse than physical laws targeting you an love ones like Muslims and Mexicans are facing under Trump

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The fact that you view this as merely a tactical error rather than a moral failure to me shows that you're full of hooey. This won't fool anybody in 2020.

An again the fact you think being talked down to by some east coast caricature is worse then the Muslim ban shows how full of hooey you are.

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Republicans won because we treat people with respect, unlike the Democrats who call others deplorables, and because we recognize the struggles of Americans, unlike the Democrats, who ignored large sectors of the American people, e.g. people in the rust belt, who Hillary virtually ignored.   

So you just high or in denial

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Did the Republicans disappear in 1936?

No.

There is a reason the Republicans now control the Presidency, the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House, most of the Governorships, most of the state legislative houses, and are likely to set the agenda on the U.S. Supreme Court for a generation.

That is because the Democrats considered voters to be stupid, called them deplorable, took voters for granted, and ignored large segments of the electorate.

The Democrats fully deserve to be in the predicament in which they now find themselves.

Oh stop with that bs Hillary called Trump's hardcore supporters "deplorable" which most of them are plus RWers rip on liberal voters all the time

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Why do people call Trump supporters stupid and deplorable?  Because they are.  http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-supporters-call-for-liberal-genocide-and-deportation-of-jews-at-arizona-rally/

Typical Democrat tactic, pathetically attempting to paint the Republican Party and Trump supporters with the same brush as a few kooks.

May I remind you that 99.99% of the people who voted for Trump are everyday Americans, honest, hard working, tax paying people, who want jobs, and are sick of the establishment calling the shots.

It is not 99.99% when 40% of republicans believe Obama is a Muslim, when the number of hate groups tripled under Obama, an the new republican president ran on building a wall across the Mexican border, banning Muslims, and is openly beloved by skinheads then it is not a small fringe

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Too late.

The Democrats are so incompetent, morally bankrupt, and lacking of vision that we are becoming a one-party state ruled by the Republicans as the Democrats keep losing record numbers of seats.

wanna bet that "trend" will be kind of...eh.... stopped 2018, outside of the senate?

I hope so as well, but I fear the pendulum has swung so far its stuck in the wall, and won't be moving until the whole building collapses. (I.e. I expect lots of blatant and effective GOP voter suppression, met by tepid whining from the Democrats.)

538 did an exhaustive study that showed that voter suppression ID laws really didnt do as much damage as previously thought. It all comes down to enthusiasm and the Dems have none

Have or had? Cause it seems like their is a lot of liberal enthusiasm against Trump

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Too late.

The Democrats are so incompetent, morally bankrupt, and lacking of vision that we are becoming a one-party state ruled by the Republicans as the Democrats keep losing record numbers of seats.

wanna bet that "trend" will be kind of...eh.... stopped 2018, outside of the senate?

I hope so as well, but I fear the pendulum has swung so far its stuck in the wall, and won't be moving until the whole building collapses. (I.e. I expect lots of blatant and effective GOP voter suppression, met by tepid whining from the Democrats.)

538 did an exhaustive study that showed that voter suppression ID laws really didnt do as much damage as previously thought. It all comes down to enthusiasm and the Dems have none

Have or had? Cause it seems like their is a lot of liberal enthusiasm against Trump

Against Trump and against the Dem establishment

The liberal/progressive left hated Clinton just as much as they hated Trump

I know that but I was confused by the statement. Are you saying because of Perez that the dems will make no gains in the midterms because of some third party protest? Cause if not I don't see how you can say dems don't have momentum?

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Too late.

The Democrats are so incompetent, morally bankrupt, and lacking of vision that we are becoming a one-party state ruled by the Republicans as the Democrats keep losing record numbers of seats.

wanna bet that "trend" will be kind of...eh.... stopped 2018, outside of the senate?

I hope so as well, but I fear the pendulum has swung so far its stuck in the wall, and won't be moving until the whole building collapses. (I.e. I expect lots of blatant and effective GOP voter suppression, met by tepid whining from the Democrats.)

538 did an exhaustive study that showed that voter suppression ID laws really didnt do as much damage as previously thought. It all comes down to enthusiasm and the Dems have none

Have or had? Cause it seems like their is a lot of liberal enthusiasm against Trump

Against Trump and against the Dem establishment

The liberal/progressive left hated Clinton just as much as they hated Trump

I know that but I was confused by the statement. Are you saying because of Perez that the dems will make no gains in the midterms because of some third party protest? Cause if not I don't see how you can say dems don't have momentum?

The Dems are banking on Trump being so bad that it will drive turnout so they're yet again running with nothing but empty platitudes/rhetoric with candidates who will most likely be stiffs straight out of DNC central casting. The Dems need a progressive "Contract with America," nobody even knows what the Dems are for or what their policy proposals are. If running on Trump=bad man didn't work in 2016, it wont work in 2018

Dude it's two months in contract with America happen like the month before the midterm shouldn't we wait until the summer of 2018 until we start saying "the dems have no strategy"?

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Too late.

The Democrats are so incompetent, morally bankrupt, and lacking of vision that we are becoming a one-party state ruled by the Republicans as the Democrats keep losing record numbers of seats.

wanna bet that "trend" will be kind of...eh.... stopped 2018, outside of the senate?

I hope so as well, but I fear the pendulum has swung so far its stuck in the wall, and won't be moving until the whole building collapses. (I.e. I expect lots of blatant and effective GOP voter suppression, met by tepid whining from the Democrats.)

538 did an exhaustive study that showed that voter suppression ID laws really didnt do as much damage as previously thought. It all comes down to enthusiasm and the Dems have none

Have or had? Cause it seems like their is a lot of liberal enthusiasm against Trump

Against Trump and against the Dem establishment

The liberal/progressive left hated Clinton just as much as they hated Trump

I know that but I was confused by the statement. Are you saying because of Perez that the dems will make no gains in the midterms because of some third party protest? Cause if not I don't see how you can say dems don't have momentum?

The Dems are banking on Trump being so bad that it will drive turnout so they're yet again running with nothing but empty platitudes/rhetoric with candidates who will most likely be stiffs straight out of DNC central casting. The Dems need a progressive "Contract with America," nobody even knows what the Dems are for or what their policy proposals are. If running on Trump=bad man didn't work in 2016, it wont work in 2018

     This is actually what I have been saying for a while now. It's pretty clear that going hard anti-Trump isn't the surefire winner that Dems thought it would be before the election. A stronger message would require reflecting on the flaws that drove historically Democratic voters in the Midwest to vote Republican and addressing them. That's a tough step to take, though.

The Dems blew it with Hillary and they seem to be doubling down on their failed strategy. I don't know if Bernie would of won but at the very least, Bernie would of redefined what it meant to be a Democrat in the way William Jennings Bryan and Al Smith had to lose in order to build up the proper coalition that FDR would claim as his own. Trump may lose in 2020 but for now he's solidified the Republicans as the party of the working class.

My prediction is the Dems will unperformed in 2018 and that's when the Bernie wing will really start pushing out the stiffs at the DNC. This "ideas" or "listening"' tour the Dems are going on now to try to give us the impression that their unified is all a farce since the DNC rejected every Bernie recommended platform plank when they voted to elect that stiff Perez for chairman. People just arent falling for it anymore.

Again it's two months in people. "Contract with America" didn't happen until a month before the midterm so can we wait until next year before we say "dems have no strategy/relying on just anti-Trump"?! Seriously what are the dems suppose to shot out "single payer" right now when it will be forgotten by 2018 or wait until around the summer of 2018 when either Trumpcare died in congress or passed by is unpopular?

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You guys are in for a rough time as it is, don't dig your 2020 hole any deeper.

     If they really want to jump then you can't stop them.

On the contrary, like a New Yorker from the seventies, I should be yelling "jump asshole!" at the intended jumpers.

Yeah I'm sure 2020 will be effected by liberals in a thread saying Trump supporters are stupid

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Democrats have always been trying to meet Republicans in the middle. I invite Republican members and Republicans to show a little bit of respect to the 66 million Hillary Clinton voters(who significantly outnumber Trump voters). I will give you that while a lot of Trump supporters are deplorable(Hillary Clinton was correct), 50% or more are good people who want the best for their country and have lost faith in the system, and those opposed to Trump should reach out to you, something Clinton did not do.

The Democrats on this board are anything but respectful.  The Democratic party is becoming a party for whiney entitled Millennials that demand respect but don't earn it.  It's becoming readily apparent why Democrats nationally are losing. 

You seem to have a weird hard on for millennials.