Your feelings on Perez as DNC Chair, Ellison as Deputy Chair?

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Instead of complaining about not getting anything handed to via a silver platter, why not celebrate the progress already made. I can assure everyone that the election of Perez cannot (and will not) affect the progress of Progressive wingers in any way.

Sanders Loyalists have already been taking over state parties gradually, but surely. Burning the party down only makes you weaker. We have much more important battles to fighting and some of you can just moan and not help the party in anyway. We have races like GA-06 and MT-AL to fight for and all you can do is throw a temper tantrum? No wonder why so many people can't take you seriously.

This was supposed to be another boring DNC race and people just added fire to the gasoline because "muh establishment is evil" and "muh symbolism." Too many aren't even satisfied with Ellison being Deputy Chair.

At least Republicans have more unity than this (and that should tell you something). I am ashamed.

You really don't get it?

Im sorry but you guys don't get it the f**king DNC chair is not worth a revolt over let alone someone like Perez. People are being physically by Trump and we are sitting here arguing over petty bullsh*t. For christ sake the Bernie wing wants to change the DNC then f**king take over state parties and put your people in congress and later the presidential nominee

[Hindsight was 2020]

For those interested...some leaked (or claims to have leaked) the DNC Chair Ballot voting list showing how each state and member voted in the first and second round:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mi9sac97q6jqf4m/AACsQeUCVB8Fvcl-dubfePKIa?dl=0

Great news! Hopefully they will be systematically targeted by the Bernie wing whenever they're up for reelection.

I hope they're only targeted if Perez does a poor job running the DNC. If he does an excellent job, the people who voted for him shouldn't face punishment for doing a good thing

LOL no. This is not about Perez.

Why should they be punished if Perez does a great job?  With all due respect, that makes absolutely no sense.

The party needs a change in local and national leadership. If you were on the wrong side of this fight, it says something about your political judgement and benefit to the party going forward.

Perez might be a great DNC chair. But if you were part of the group of people that sabotaged the bid of someone with support from both wings of the party SOLELY because he was perceived as "the Bernie candidate" and you just hate populists that much, I think it's pretty fair to say that it's time for you to go. 

I do agree it boggles my mind how Chuck Schumer backs Keith yet that wasn't enough. But still the DNC chair is not a event worth killing the dems over an while many won't admit it but Perez also won because he is a "safer" choice, as ugly as it is Keith could of easily been turned into a boogeyman man

[Hindsight was 2020]

What are everyone's thoughts now that it's been a few months?

Well with the exception of MT-AL he has been fine

[Hindsight was 2020]

Too early to say, but I definitely think we are far better off with Perez than we would've been with Ellison as the official Chairman. 

Perez has done nothing to impress, granted not much time has passed - but I am less convinced that Ellison could have made as much of a difference as I had thought that he might when the contest took place.

The Democratic Party's problems are too deeply rooted for a change of leadership to make much of a difference, and the first several months of the Trump administration have shown how many of the party's problems originate with its voter base. All that they have going for them are the savage politics of the Republican Party of 2017.

Unless something drastic happens between now and November 2018, the cultural politics of middle class urban professionals will figure heavily into that campaign. Those politics are rigid and polarizing enough that Democrats running in poor, rural and, less educated districts - even some with large non-white populations - will suffer for it.

The role of urban professionals in the Democratic coalition is becoming something like the role of the religious right in the Republican Party over the past several decades - i.e. loyal and reliable voters, who are an essential source of organizational support, but who are so culturally repellent to the rest of the country that they will scare other voters away if they are not kept in check.

How the f**k are suburbans anything like the religious right?

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How the f**k are suburbans anything like the religious right?

Suburbs? What have suburbs got to do with anything? American suburbs are extremely diverse and a large majority of votes for both parties are cast by people who live in them.

Oh sorry I misread you said urban which also raises the same question