Iowa is Rubio Country

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As a Republican, I would vote Sanders without a second thought if this was the matchup.

But good job on the timeline, you seem really dedicated.

Thought you were UWS for a sec and was like "wut."

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Just ignore a timeline if you don't enjoy it. I don't see what's productive about coming in and trashing a timeline you dislike.

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Rubio leading in California LOL

Not completely unreasonable. If you check Sanders Positions and compare that with Democrat Michael Dukakis who lost a landslide in 1988 they are quite similar.

Electoral Count 1988
George H. W. Bush 426
Michael Dukakis 111
Abstentions 1

And California was much more Republican then and actually was a red state. Now it's the most Democratic state in the country. But of course it will flip because muh Rubio is Cuban.

I agree. California should be voting at least 7-8 points to the left of Washington and 11-12 points left of Oregon. 

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Rubio leading in California LOL

Not completely unreasonable. If you check Sanders Positions and compare that with Democrat Michael Dukakis who lost a landslide in 1988 they are quite similar.

Electoral Count 1988
George H. W. Bush 426
Michael Dukakis 111
Abstentions 1

And California was much more Republican then and actually was a red state. Now it's the most Democratic state in the country. But of course it will flip because muh Rubio is Cuban.

Wrong. Vermont and Hawaii are more Democratic than California.

And if you look at 2004, John Kerry won California by less than 10 percentage points.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California,_2004

Much has changed since 2004...

I mean in 2002, just two years before, Washington friggin county Oregon went to the Republican candidate.

I can see your point, but I looked at 2008-2016 results and California is consistently 6-10 points more Democratic than Washington.

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Rubio leading in California LOL

Not completely unreasonable. If you check Sanders Positions and compare that with Democrat Michael Dukakis who lost a landslide in 1988 they are quite similar.

Electoral Count 1988
George H. W. Bush 426
Michael Dukakis 111
Abstentions 1

I somehow feel like your related to UWS somehow. Maybe a cousin or something?

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Can you guys give this UWS = 2016 thing a rest please? I already compared the two accounts a long time ago. There is nothing to it. And I said this publicly too, so unless you have some evidence for these accusations, after a certain point it could be considered harassment if you won't let it be.

Alrighty.

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No Doug

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Good timeline. How does Rubio win CA, IL, NJ, CT, WA, OR and DE without a Dem split

CA and IL I would say are questionable calls but its his TL so thats his call to make.


But any Republican who wins 60% of the popular vote would solidly win those other states

OR a Republican needs to win 54% of the popular vote to win the state

NJ DE a Republican needs around 56%

WA and CT a Republican needs around 57%


IL and CA I would say a Republican would need at least 65%

I agree with this. But if a R does win Cali, I think Oregon would be going 53-54% Rubio at the least.

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I just want to say something to the people offending this TL. So what if this TL is not one of those Love Stories? So what if it is optimistic? UWS our effort into it and we should respect that. If you don’t like it, then don’t read it.

Okay, but 1) this was more appropriate about a month ago and 2) us 'liberal dems' get the point.

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Did this tl lose two pages or am I crazy?

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Shouldn't the 2022 Midterms rush by now?

Knowing several states, I have some suggestions for them:

Possible GOP Losses

Alabama: Terri Sewell
Georgia: Stacey Abrams
Illinois: Michelle Obama
Indiana: Lloyd Winnecke
Missouri: Jay Nixon
New Hampshire: Ann McLane Kuster
North Carolina: G. K. Butterfield
Ohio: Tim Ryan
Pennsylvania: Dwight Evans

Possible DEM Losses:

Connecticut: Jodi Rell
Maryland: Larry Hogan
New York: George Pataki (NOTE: Only if Schumer retires and Chelsea is the Dem Candidate. If it's Kennedy, it's a loss for the GOP)
Oregon: Greg Walden
Washington: Jaime Herrera Beutler

All in all, I expect the Senate Composition to possibly look like this: 66-34; 65-35 if Schumer doesn't retire/Kennedy is the Dem Nominee

Haha smarmy Greg Walden won't win my home state...right?

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Shouldn't the 2022 Midterms rush by now?

Knowing several states, I have some suggestions for them:

Possible GOP Losses

Alabama: Terri Sewell
Georgia: Stacey Abrams
Illinois: Michelle Obama
Indiana: Lloyd Winnecke
Missouri: Jay Nixon
New Hampshire: Ann McLane Kuster
North Carolina: G. K. Butterfield
Ohio: Tim Ryan
Pennsylvania: Dwight Evans

Possible DEM Losses:

Connecticut: Jodi Rell
Maryland: Larry Hogan
New York: George Pataki (NOTE: Only if Schumer retires and Chelsea is the Dem Candidate. If it's Kennedy, it's a loss for the GOP)
Oregon: Greg Walden
Washington: Jaime Herrera Beutler

All in all, I expect the Senate Composition to possibly look like this: 66-34; 65-35 if Schumer doesn't retire/Kennedy is the Dem Nominee

Haha smarmy Greg Walden won't win my home state...right?

Guy has survived the 2006 and 2008 Waves and most likely might survive the 2018 wave OTL, so it wouldn't hurt to assume he could win in a Senate race, especially considering the apparent Rightward shift of OR ITTL

Knute Buehler or Gordon Smith are better fits for the state imo

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Why is Kate Brown still Governor? LMAO

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Wonder how the Rubio presidency affects the political trends that have been occurring in our timeline (eg. Arizona moving left, the Midwest moving right), and how clear they will be in the first non-Republican landslide in a while.

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I thought there might’ve been more SCOTUS turnovers!  I can’t believe that Ruth Bader Ginsburg or Stephen Breyer are even still on the court! I thought that Rubio might’ve put more Justices besides Lee or Pryor on SC.

Ginsburg will be 90 in 2023, so she is likely to retire or die that year, which will be necessitating a SCOTUS nomination.

Dang looks like SCOTUS will be conservative at least for the next generation...