Some Dems think Biden likelier to win NC than GA

[South Dakota Democrat]

I'm puzzled why Biden is trying to expand the map at this point. There are 5 states that flipped from 2016 and Nevada, he should focus on those.

I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're overthinking it. It is perfectly reasonable for Biden to contest a state that he lost by just 1.34%.

It's not as if he's spreading himself thin by going for a 50-state-strategy. I don't buy that focusing on 5 states is a significantly better use of Biden's time than focusing on 6 states.

why would he focus on a state he lost by 2-3 points if it is almost certain there will not be a national shift to the left from 2020. At this point, I would just play defense cause as of right now, 2020 is his ceiling, no if, ands or buts about it.

There are a couple ifs. Maybe even a but.

[South Dakota Democrat]

I'm puzzled why Biden is trying to expand the map at this point. There are 5 states that flipped from 2016 and Nevada, he should focus on those.

I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're overthinking it. It is perfectly reasonable for Biden to contest a state that he lost by just 1.34%.

It's not as if he's spreading himself thin by going for a 50-state-strategy. I don't buy that focusing on 5 states is a significantly better use of Biden's time than focusing on 6 states.

It's just an unnecessary use of resources, the same way Trump contesting Minneosta in 2020 was. And there isnt even a senate race there either. 1.34% may seem close but it was still like 70k votes. That's a bit more than Bidens raw net in AZ, GA, WI, and NV combined.

From an electoral perspective there’s a non-0 chance NC is the tipping point (though it’s unlikely). Furthermore, as I said earlier NC has other important races up; Biden doing well enough to get Stein over the edge, win the State Supreme Court seat and break NC Rs legislative supermajority would be a huge win, even if Biden loses statewide.

If I were in the Biden team, the only 2 Trump states I’d make any serious investment in are TX and NC, not necessarily with the expectation of winning but to help the long term prospects for Dems in those states.

If Stein and Jackson win, Dems hold the SCNC seat, the supermajority is broken, and Don Davis is re-elected, that’s a huge win for the NCDP even if Biden himself falls short.

The thing is Biden and the NCDP are different entities. The truth is the National Dem party and Biden's goal is to win the federal trifecta, the results of a state party are irrelevant to them compared to the federal trifecta. Unless there is a federal senate seat, local races are up to the state party to maneuver.

Yeah, I mostly agree.  Like, party building is good and all of us would love that as partisans for our side in any state we need a boost in, but Biden's concern is getting to 270 and getting majorities in Congress.