Biden picks Harris as running mate

[South Dakota Democrat]

I know plenty of moderates who are Anti-Trump who were planning on voting for Biden.  This choice will have them voting third party.   Terrible choice.

I don't believe you.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Her busing remarks against Biden is going to backfire now. Biden is such a dumbass.

Yes, the 2020 election will surely hinge on Biden's position on busing in the 1970s.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Lost my vote!

Then you were never voting for Biden in the first place.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Lost my vote!

Then you were never voting for Biden in the first place.

Cope.

Yeah, I'm copying with the fact that you're a liar.

[South Dakota Democrat]

My mom who is a dem hates this pick and says no she is considering writing someone in. This is a terrible choice by Biden

...what? Kamala is about the most middle-of-the-road Democrat you can find, who could have possibly persuaded your mom if Kamala doesn't? Joe Manchin?

She wanted Susan Rice and her dislike of Kamala is not mainly of her views on the issues but cause she views her to be an opportunistic fraud and utterly came to despise her in the campaign.

Also she is not a centrist lol she is a leftist like Gillibrand(Bernie and Warren are socialists and being to the right of them doenst make you moderate)

This mostly sounds like nonsense.

[South Dakota Democrat]

This is the way I see it
I think that Biden is the equivalent of Bob Dole in 1996. The GOP wasn’t going to defeat Clinton and it was Dole’s “turn”. It was a lost cause from the get go and the Biden/ Heels up Harris disaster is the democRATS version of Dole/Kemp

What a stupid take.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Harris is a loser, a virtue signaling corporate shrill, and apparently a person who no longer thinks Biden is a racist, or hates integration, or whatever point she was trying to make last year.

She still embodies the worst of our politics, its a shame that Biden nominated her and an even greater shame that he decided to pick his candidate in a sexist and racist way rather than exclusively on qualifications (of which there were far better black women to chose from).


I still hope Trump loses brutally, but perhaps Harris will decide suddenly to retire and take up an intensive study of ferns in a remote part of Papua in October allowing Biden to select a more appropriate candidate.

I can't even...

[South Dakota Democrat]

Intentionally or not, Jessica's comment was a brilliant troll to bring out all the D avatars, so we can look back after Trump's re-election to see exactly where the race stood on the day Biden picked Harris.

!!!

[South Dakota Democrat]

My mom who is a dem hates this pick and says no she is considering writing someone in. This is a terrible choice by Biden

...what? Kamala is about the most middle-of-the-road Democrat you can find, who could have possibly persuaded your mom if Kamala doesn't? Joe Manchin?

She wanted Susan Rice and her dislike of Kamala is not mainly of her views on the issues but cause she views her to be an opportunistic fraud and utterly came to despise her in the campaign.

Also she is not a centrist lol she is a leftist like Gillibrand(Bernie and Warren are socialists and being to the right of them doenst make you moderate)

This mostly sounds like nonsense.

It’s not , she actually called me to ask if the news was true and when I said it was and she was like ok now I’m gonna write in someone

Not necessarily nonsense in that it didn't happen (although I'm not ruling that out), but that they would like Susan Rice and hate Kamala for no apparent reason.

[South Dakota Democrat]

I have an honest question for the mods....Is being for Trump with the aim of making posts aimed at exposing Biden and Harris even allowed on this board? I ask this in all seriousness as a lot of my threads and post are being moderated.  I want Trump to win, but I can't get an anti-Biden post without being shut down.

Lets be fair if you can attack Trump I should have the right to attack Biden! Trump is also running and also has supporters. Fair is fair.

If it isn't allowed then I'll just read the polls and play the atlasia game. I am so sorry for causing waves on your board.

You have the right to attack Biden.  However, we also have the right to rebut your misinformation and mock you accordingly.

[South Dakota Democrat]

What do Biden supporters think of this?



Joe Biden’s Ancestors Reportedly Owned DOZENS Of Slaves
By cloverchronicle on June 26, 2020
https://cloverchronicle.com/2020/06/26/joe-bidens-ancestor-reportedly-owned-16-black-slaves/

It was recently discovered that former Vice President Joe Biden’s ancestors reportedly owned a large number of African-American slaves (source):

    Joseph Robinette Biden, 47th Vice President of the United States, is the 5th generation descendant of Maryland slave owner Jesse Robinette through his paternal grandmother Mary Biden (Robinette).

What I think of this is that it's irrelevant.  What is Joe Biden supposed to do, go back in time and stop his ancestors from owning slaves?  How is this a criticism of Joe Biden himself?

[South Dakota Democrat]

I’m disappointed it wasn’t Warren, but Harris isn’t a bad pick by any stretch. She’ll be a capable VP nominee and ready to step into the job on Day 1 if she has to.

But in 4 years, we better not see any attempts to clear the field for her. At that point we’ll have had Democratic office holders blocked from moving up the ladder for 3 separate cycles by incumbents and pseudo-incumbents (Obama, Clinton, Biden).

We deserve an open primary and we need it for the health of the party. Kamala needs to earn it.

The thing is that the last 5 Democratic VPs all got nominated (Johnson, Humphrey, Mondale, Gore, and Biden), and that doesn't include Hillary.  

And all of them lost*. That’s my point. Nominating VP’s doesn’t translate to electoral victories. Candidates that emerge from competitive primaries who have to prove themselves are far better nominees (JFK, Bill Clinton, Obama).

*Johnson wasn’t the VP. He was the incumbent President.

I think it has far less to do with them not "proving themselves" and far more to do with the fact that it's difficult for a party to hold the presidency for more than two consecutive terms.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Wait, so, who here actually found out through text?

I got the text but found out like 2 minutes before that.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Biden/Harris must be the most uninspiring ticket in modern times.

Embarrassing for anyone to say a ticket with the first black woman VP (or black woman at all) is somehow 'uninspiring'

try harder next time

Yeah because being a woman and black makes you automatically inspiring. That sounds pretty sexist and racist. Ask Obama how inspiring he turned out to be.

Presidential elections are about policies (well, really the economy).

Picking Harris has turned off many voters.

It hasn't turned off many voters.

And yes, Obama was inspiring. And to millions of black women across this country, the pick of Harris IS inspiring.

You people need to get out in the world and get out of your bubble.

He fell incredibly short of expectations, and really continued a lot of the unpopular GWB policies.

You're getting confused.  If you want to argue that Obama's presidency left you uinspired, that's one thing and you have a right to that opinion.  But we're talking about the historic nature of a candidate being inspirational during their candidacy.  Are you trying to argue that Obama's candidacy wasn't inspiring? 

There is no objective way to argue that the first woman of color on a presidential ticket is not inspiring. 

It’s absolutely irrelevant.

One day there will be a gay president. One day there will be a president who is the first atheist. There will always be a first ‘something.’ You can go on and on and on. It matters nowt about inherent personal traits like that. Come on, man!

It’s only the left who like identity politics - it’s a very sad state of affairs.

I'm sad...that the public school system has failed you so badly.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Biden/Harris must be the most uninspiring ticket in modern times.

Embarrassing for anyone to say a ticket with the first black woman VP (or black woman at all) is somehow 'uninspiring'

try harder next time

Yeah because being a woman and black makes you automatically inspiring. That sounds pretty sexist and racist. Ask Obama how inspiring he turned out to be.

Presidential elections are about policies (well, really the economy).

Picking Harris has turned off many voters.

It hasn't turned off many voters.

And yes, Obama was inspiring. And to millions of black women across this country, the pick of Harris IS inspiring.

You people need to get out in the world and get out of your bubble.

He fell incredibly short of expectations, and really continued a lot of the unpopular GWB policies.

You're getting confused.  If you want to argue that Obama's presidency left you uinspired, that's one thing and you have a right to that opinion.  But we're talking about the historic nature of a candidate being inspirational during their candidacy.  Are you trying to argue that Obama's candidacy wasn't inspiring? 

There is no objective way to argue that the first woman of color on a presidential ticket is not inspiring. 

It’s absolutely irrelevant.

One day there will be a gay president. One day there will be a president who is the first atheist. There will always be a first ‘something.’ You can go on and on and on. It matters nowt about inherent personal traits like that. Come on, man!

It’s only the left who like identity politics - it’s a very sad state of affairs.

I'm sad...that the public school system has failed you so badly.

Went to Private School all my life - and rigorous ones at that. But go on with the ignorant personal attacks - that’s a sign that you’re losing a debate.

It was an Office reference.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Harris is kind of worriesome in that she reminds me more Paul Ryan than Mike Pence.

Meaning that she comes of as closer to a rising star that eventually fades away than someone with a record of service deserving of the VP title.

Mike Pence's political career was over until Trump picked him as VP or did you forget that whole outbreak Indiana had during his last term as Governor? They were ready to chase him out with pitchforks.

Still, rising stars tend to do poorly as VP picks, and Harris comes off as closer to a rising star. Pence, though washed up, wasn't a rising star. Maybe Biden 2008 would be a better comparison.

Whether the VP pick is a rising star or not would seem to me to have very little to do with whether the ticket ultimately wins or not...

[South Dakota Democrat]

I doubt it will actually matter in this election - Biden is at the top and he's against an unhinged demented moron President Nero, but I would not be surprised if Pence defeats Harris at the VP debates. He's a much more capable debater than Harris, who makes irrelevant attacks and has a surprising record of bigotry against people of faith. Harris can only really beat him if she turns it into a surrogate Presidential debate, although she will probably try to do that. The only reason Pence should feel nervous against a lower-tier debater like Harris is that he's under the lowest tier Trump.

Harris is going to wipe the floor with Pence at the debate.   This is coming from someone who isn't a Harris fan too.

Wtf does Pence have to run on?   The administration has been a trainwreck all year.   Also Harris is a fantastic debater, being a prosecutor and all.

I'm overall pleased with the Harris selection (even if she wasn't my first choice), but I think a lot of people are underestimating Pence in the debate.  Look at the VP debate in 2016.  He swatted away everything Tim Kaine threw at him, and defended even the most indefensible Trump statements/positions through a combination of outright lies and calm.  He stands a good chance at the VP debate because he is willing to say incredible lies without any shame whatsoever.  These will be fact checked later but perhaps not in the moment.

[South Dakota Democrat]

I'm overall pleased with the Harris selection (even if she wasn't my first choice), but I think a lot of people are underestimating Pence in the debate.  Look at the VP debate in 2016.  He swatted away everything Tim Kaine threw at him, and defended even the most indefensible Trump statements/positions through a combination of outright lies and calm.  He stands a good chance at the VP debate because he is willing to say incredible lies without any shame whatsoever.  These will be fact checked later but perhaps not in the moment.

Conversely, Kaine had a terrible strategy for that whole debate (force Pence to agree with Trump), and I doubt Kamala will make the same mistake. She has a record to hit him on now.

Sure, but I think some of us are underestimating how much Pence will lie about said record.

[South Dakota Democrat]

If America is as sexist and racist as the left claims it is, then why would you select Kamala Harris as your running mate if you wanted to win the election? What happened to the systemic racism that was so prevalent? 🤔 #cognitivedissonance #politicsasusual

Because there are more non-racists and non-sexists than racists and sexists?  No one ever said racists and sexists were a majority...but that doesn't mean they doesn't have crippling impacts.

Also, your buddy Trump was literally calling into Fox News today talking about "angry, nasty, mean" Kamala, "crazy" Nancy Pelosi, how AOC is always "yapping," etc. (Not to mention his tweet about Mika being a ditzy airhead).

[South Dakota Democrat]

If America is as sexist and racist as the left claims it is, then why would you select Kamala Harris as your running mate if you wanted to win the election? What happened to the systemic racism that was so prevalent? 🤔 #cognitivedissonance #politicsasusual

Because there are more non-racists and non-sexists than racists and sexists?  No one ever said racists and sexists were a majority...but that doesn't mean they doesn't have crippling impacts.

Also, your buddy Trump was literally calling into Fox News today talking about "angry, nasty, mean" Kamala, "crazy" Nancy Pelosi, how AOC is always "yapping," etc. (Not to mention his tweet about Mika being a ditzy airhead).

If you’re banning company names, then you know your desperate. Political ploys.

Huh?

[South Dakota Democrat]

If America is as sexist and racist as the left claims it is, then why would you select Kamala Harris as your running mate if you wanted to win the election? What happened to the systemic racism that was so prevalent? 🤔 #cognitivedissonance #politicsasusual

Because there are more non-racists and non-sexists than racists and sexists?  No one ever said racists and sexists were a majority...but that doesn't mean they doesn't have crippling impacts.

Also, your buddy Trump was literally calling into Fox News today talking about "angry, nasty, mean" Kamala, "crazy" Nancy Pelosi, how AOC is always "yapping," etc. (Not to mention his tweet about Mika being a ditzy airhead).

But they can call Trump Hitler? Lol give me a break you hack.

You're disputing the notion of racism and sexism existing, but I'm a hack because someone else called Trump Hitler?  Okay.

[South Dakota Democrat]

If America is as sexist and racist as the left claims it is, then why would you select Kamala Harris as your running mate if you wanted to win the election? What happened to the systemic racism that was so prevalent? 🤔 #cognitivedissonance #politicsasusual

Because there are more non-racists and non-sexists than racists and sexists?  No one ever said racists and sexists were a majority...but that doesn't mean they doesn't have crippling impacts.

Also, your buddy Trump was literally calling into Fox News today talking about "angry, nasty, mean" Kamala, "crazy" Nancy Pelosi, how AOC is always "yapping," etc. (Not to mention his tweet about Mika being a ditzy airhead).

If you’re banning company names, then you know your desperate. Political ploys.

Huh?

Removing Aunt Jamiama (it’s probably racist because I can’t spell her name, right?).

Way to deflect....I never brought up Aunt Jemima.