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« on: August 02, 2022, 07:48:16 PM »

If these results hold and No does end up winning by a landslide, the GOP seriously needs to rethink their strategy on abortion for the midterms.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2022, 08:17:28 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2022, 08:27:12 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2022, 08:42:44 PM »

Johnson just dropped 120,970 votes, 72-28 no

So beautiful.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2022, 09:28:26 PM »

Many people will be on suicide watch from these results. Amazing folks, So. Much. Winning!!!!!

Haven't seen any blue avs sticking their noses into this thread quite yet 👀
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2022, 09:46:20 PM »

I wonder if we would have been better off having this referendum in November.  It probably wouldn't have passed this year in Kansas, but I'm guessing that there was a bit of an enthusiasm gap in voting on this (especially with polls having showed yes ahead).  If it had been in November, turnout would have been higher across the board.  
Higher turnout probably doomed this referendum; sneaking it past voters in August (when there's no big Democratic race to vote for and nothing besides abortion on the ballot for independents) was supposed to produce optimal turnout for pro-lifers. It didn't work.

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Remember that virtually identical amendments passed in Tennessee (despite being badly outspent), Alabama, and West Virginia.
I'm more shocked that the constitutional right to an abortion failed by just 5 points in blood red, Bible belt Tennessee. That, to me, is a big indication of how these votes will play out in the future.

And the one in West Virginia passed by just 3 points in 2018.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2022, 11:02:55 PM »

In light of this, does the Kentucky no right to abortion referendum still pass in November?  I would say yes, but substantially trailing Trump's vote.

Probably, but do Pennsylvania Republicans really want this on the ballot in November like it appears they are going for?

If tonight's results are anything to go off of, a hypothetical anti-abortion referendum could lose by at least 30 points in PA and the GOP would be stupid to pursue one here... but alas, this is the PAGOP we're talking about.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2022, 12:27:13 AM »

Interestingly, the only polling that was ever done for the amendment had it passing 47-43%.

That's a pretty big miss.

https://coefficient.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/KS-VTB-Amendment-7.18.pdf
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2022, 08:16:26 AM »

Interestingly, the only polling that was ever done for the amendment had it passing 47-43%.

That's a pretty big miss.

https://coefficient.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/KS-VTB-Amendment-7.18.pdf

Eh, we only had one poll and honestly this entire campaign *really* ramped up with awareness in the last 2 weeks alone, so I don't think that one poll should be super scrutinized.

Never said it should. Just said it was interesting.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2022, 02:06:56 PM »

Stunning results.

Isn't Kansas one of the lesser socially conservative red states, in part because of the grade of urbanization? I'm relatively sure the outcome of the referendum would have been very different in neighboring Oklahoma.

Grade of urbanization + relatively large college educated population.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2022, 03:01:27 PM »


Oh for the love of God. These people seriously cannot process the fact that not everyone agrees with their views and values. If something doesn't go their way, it must be because of voter fraud, not because a majority of people are on the other side Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2022, 03:21:53 PM »

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Oh for the love of God. These people seriously cannot process the fact that not everyone agrees with their views and values. If something doesn't go their way, it must be because of voter fraud, not because a majority of people are on the other side Roll Eyes

Oh no, that's fine, they need to come up with 234000$ in cash to pay for it. The Kansas SoS already declined payment by credit card on Friday and in assets this morning, according to news reports.

Well, that's good. But the fact that someone is even trying to initiate it and has already raised a couple thousand dollars from other people is still baffling to me.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2022, 07:44:13 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2022, 10:55:35 AM »

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