GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread

[TheSaint250]

How does Corbyn doing well in the UK say anything about US politics?

REASONS

lol

[TheSaint250]

When is Pelosi ever going to be held accountable 2010..2012..2014..2016..2018? Why are House Dems ok with this?

Didnt you hear? The geniuses over at the DNC are hiring Rham Emanuel to coordinate the 2018 mid-terms. He's going to brush the dust off the 90s DLC playbook and bring back the Clinton days! Sure it hasn't worked in nearly 20 years but dont worry ...any day now!

I don't think putting up ultra-liberal Sandernistas will do it

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

GOP will move more to the center over time. Centrism is the key for both parties

It needs to be centrism with a vision though.

Centrism that is cold and without a vision depresses turnout.

I think it needs to be something that says "Centrism involves working together on common issues and seeking to reconcile differences.  Such a movement will allow for a more functional and positive America."

[TheSaint250]

When is Pelosi ever going to be held accountable 2010..2012..2014..2016..2018? Why are House Dems ok with this?

Didnt you hear? The geniuses over at the DNC are hiring Rham Emanuel to coordinate the 2018 mid-terms. He's going to brush the dust off the 90s DLC playbook and bring back the Clinton days! Sure it hasn't worked in nearly 20 years but dont worry ...any day now!

I don't think putting up ultra-liberal Sandernistas will do it

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

GOP will move more to the center over time. Centrism is the key for both parties

It needs to be centrism with a vision though.

Centrism that is cold and without a vision depresses turnout.

I think it needs to be something that says "Centrism involves working together on common issues and seeking to reconcile differences.  Such a movement will allow for a more functional and positive America."

This. You can't be too extreme. You can't be too xenophobic and too open borders. There is waste in every part of the budget including the military. Not everyone who serves in the U.S. military is a fascist or a killer. Not every cop is a "pig". Not every immigrant is a "freeloader".

You need some type of centrism. Extremes don't work all the time.

This is why I feel like I identify more with Germany's FDP

[TheSaint250]

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

It has always been the left that needs to sacrifice control and "be realistic" while the center has lost everything.

But no doubt they will double down on this terrible strategy of targeting the mythical moderate Republicans. "We only lost by a few points", they'll say, and we'll see a bunch of Jon Ossoff clones running in vulnerable Republican districts in 2018.

I see you changed your avatar

[TheSaint250]

yaaaas handel yaaaas

Yes, it was about time that she finally broke through and won a race. She hasn't been very lucky in the past.

She was motivated by the Martha Coakley comparisons

[TheSaint250]

The Handel crowd goes crazy when she mentions Trump. They start chanting his name and everything.

That's just downright creepy brainwashed behavior there.

I don't think it's creepy to say his name.

[TheSaint250]

Jfern, if every democrat who lost has lost because they're not left wing enough, why did Quist lose by 6 points?

At least Quist ran ahead of Hillary's margin in MT by double digits. On the other hand, despite having 20 million dollars wasted on him, Ossoff still managed to underperform Clinton's loss to Trump in a "Romney Democrat" district.

It wasn't a "Romney Democrat" district. Trump and Price won it in 2016

[TheSaint250]

I want the U.S. military to tone it down too, but if anyone attacks America, what do you do? Sit there and take it?

Yes, taxes should be raised on the rich in some degree, but don't make people feel like they can't achieve and do well in life. You can't abolish wealth. Taxes should be raised, but don't tax people like crazy.

I always thought a flat tax was reasonable

[TheSaint250]

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

Woulda done much worse

[TheSaint250]

I really think Dems could've done better running a Bullock-style MT Dem and a more moderate Dem in KS

[TheSaint250]

I have a feeling 2018 is going to have the largest turnout for a midterm in modern history. Maybe 45%

It's sad that 45% is high in the US

[TheSaint250]

With all due respect to the participants of this thread, the analysis here is making my head hurt.

YOU WILL LIKE IT

JK

[TheSaint250]

Lol I'm loving all of the "Republicans are idiot fascist sexist bigots" s***. Couldn't be more wrong. Stay classy, Democrats.

[TheSaint250]

Lol I'm loving all of the "Republicans are idiot fascist sexist bigots" s***. Couldn't be more wrong. Stay classy, Democrats.

Then they run people like Ossof in an effort to win over lifelong Republicans since many voted against a Republican once in their entire lives (Trump) all of sudden they're gonna embrace the Democratic Party in droves.

This strategy doesn't work. Didn't Hillary already try to court moderate republicans in 2016 with mailers to Utah about how religious she was and giving speeches with neocons on the stage with her? I thought I remembered her trying to do outreach programs to moderate republicans as a way of pulling states like AZ and NC into the Democratic fold. She made inroads, but let's not kid ourselves and expect lifelong R's who flipped once in their entire lives to become permanent members of the Democratic Party.

Exactly. That's the hole in the strategy: either work at it over time or wait for a more favorable generation to come along and start voting.  Yes, you're right about Hillary and moderates.  She used Meg Whitman and others to highlight her "bipartisan" appeal.  I will say this, though: she had more luck on the presidential level than Dems did in GA and other places with anti-Trump GOPers since many voted for her as a way to prevent Trump from winning.  The problem is that Republicans voting for Clinton didn't/doesn't mean they will go, "I need to vote straight ticket!" and vote for Dems when they like the Republicans there.

[TheSaint250]

This election proves to me that the Republican Party is no longer a political party, it is a cult of low-IQ extremists that has no objectives for governing. It exists only to hold onto power at any cost. It is incredibly sad that getting people to vote Democratic when an incumbent President is disliked by 60% of voters is like trying to get people to shop at Kmart. America is doomed.

57.1% of the people in the great GA-6 have a four-year degree or better, and 79.5% went to some college.  Let's compare that to nearby GA-4, a D+24 district represented by a Democrat, where 29% have a four-year degree or better, and 61.6% went to some college.

You really shouldn't call either party's voters low-IQ when there are literally millions of each, but at least don't sound low IQ yourself while doing it.

It's the socially liberal SJWs who defend the idiot Republican cultists who I dislike the most.

the idiot Trump cult may be capable in their line of work, but they've all been programmed to mindlessly chant "fake news" at every story critical of President Trump or the Republican Party.  

You can also look at the thousands of Republicans who pointed out that 'carbon is the stuff of life' after some fossil fuel association put out an anti global warming ad stating just that.  Every one that I saw regurgitated the tag line in that ad word for word.  

If you look at the polling on people who 'believe' global warming is real, it's almost entirely Republicans who are the deniers, and and overwhelming number of Republicans are deniers, so this isn't a case of me believing that a relatively small number of Republican who post on message boards falsely represent the vast majority of Republicans.

I presume they must have some capabilities to hold a job to afford the internet, but base Republican voters are idiot cultists.

If I had a penn. for every time a Democrat called anything critical of Dems, especially Obama and Clinton, racist or sexist, I could pay off the US debt.

[TheSaint250]

I still think it's wrong to say that the losses show that there will be no Dem wave in 2018. It all depends on what happens over the next year and a quarter.