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Torie
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« on: August 13, 2008, 10:09:07 PM »

Somebody needs to explain in detail how this will make for a better game, or my constituents chime in (not their forte thus far it appears), or I will be voting against this.
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Torie
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2008, 10:25:56 AM »

I accept it as friendly, but it is not my amendment, so I don't know if I have standing to do that.

I will be opposing this Bill however. It basically guts the meaning of the regions on a federal level. It just becomes an address, and perhaps a mischievous one as folks more around to game the system. Indeed, it makes voting even more complex, as you try to figure out how your vote hierarchy interplays with who is from which region, and in play vis a vis other candidates of that region.
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Torie
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2008, 11:09:17 AM »

Thanks Jas.
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Torie
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2008, 03:11:53 PM »

You may be right Lewis. I take it this proposal leaves only residents of a region eligible to vote for a class A senator in that region? Is that correct? I thought this was a proposal to nationalize the Class A seats, but insure one from each region was elected.
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Torie
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2008, 03:25:53 PM »

You may be right Lewis. I take it this proposal leaves only residents of a region eligible to vote for a class A senator in that region? Is that correct? I thought this was a proposal to nationalize the Class A seats, but insure one from each region was elected.
That was Xahar's proposal (which your words about how this really undermined them sort of fit very well.) This is a proposal to nationalize the Class A seats full stop.
There's an amendment and a bill because we don't want all the technicalities of the PR Act in the Constitutional Text.

Which proposal is one that nationalizes the Class A seats "full stop?" Sorry to be so obtuse. I don't want to nationalize the Class A seats.
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Torie
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2008, 03:32:28 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2008, 03:36:39 PM by Torie »

We need to put up the language of the sections that you are applying to the Class A seats. I was looking for them right now. So your proposal does gut the regions on a federal level. They have no meaning whatsoever. I get it. If we are going to do this, why not  just get rid of the regions in toto?  What purpose do they serve?  What purpose have they served? How have they added to the game, outside Senate elections, of any real substance? We can just have fictive regions for purposes of the scope of the federal powers.
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Torie
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2008, 03:38:49 PM »

What regions are comatose at the moment?
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Torie
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2008, 03:39:58 PM »

I move to table this legislation.
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Torie
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2008, 03:47:47 PM »

Hey I am from the Pacific. Let's not get personal. Tongue

Thanks for helping me work with through this Lewis. I appreciate it. Run for a Class B seat, and you will have my first preference.  Best. Smiley
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Torie
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 04:49:49 PM »

Aye
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Torie
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 12:02:43 PM »

Nay
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