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« on: December 07, 2022, 01:37:28 PM »

George Weigel, John Paul II’s autobiographer said that one of the glaring weaknesses of John Paul II, as Archbishop of Krakow and as Pope, was his lack of managerial skills.

He was basically aloof from governing.


The thing is the action here isn’t him ignoring or being on the fence about the Church being a place supportive of rape, but him actively going against victim of sexual abuse and defending the perverts in the ranks:

Right.

He had an exalted view of the priesthood that led him to protect or in Mcccarrick’s case, promote clerics.

When the Fr. Maciek debacle happened jn the late 90s, and then the Boston Sex Abuse scandal in 2001, John Paul II was quite skeptical. And to be honest, most of the Vatican. Except for one. Joseph Ratzinger who although had his own failures as Archbishop of Munich in the 1970s, grew to quickly realize the severity of the issue. He was the guy who got the ball rolling along With now Cardinal Wilton Gregory, and Then Cardinal Francis George on promoting 0 tolerance and the Dallas Charter accords which most experts have said, cut Sex abuse rates in the church to 0 virtually through background checks, revamped seminary formation, psychological counseling.

The US Catholic Church for better or worse is still seen as the Gold Standard with the response through the Dallas Charter reforms. Other countries are still catching up, Italy, Poland.


Regarding Ratzinger; He really did try to clean up the Vatican in this regard, going to battle with Sodano over Maciel. But by 2012, the Vatican Italian Curia overwhelmed him. And so he resigned.

Enter Pope Francis.

How does the Curia overwhelm a Pope?
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2022, 05:43:07 PM »

Yeah, there's nothing really redeeming about Pius XII on that front.

Nearly every country and institution, religious and secular has tried to salvage or worse, rewrite their reputation from before and during the Holocaust. The Church is no exception, but it's clear it was up to individuals from laity to priests, bishops and bureaucrats motivated by their own interests, or their own personal faith to do what little they could in whatever situation they found themselves in. The Church and most apologists for it have over the past decade, pulled back from trying to claim those personal moments for the wider Church.

What compounds things is that Catholic protests against 'Aktion 4' were very real, both on the ground in Germany and had the ears of and support of, the Vatican. It was some of the most public demonstrations against the regime during it's existence.

But what was known about Aktion 4; the processing, removals, institutionalisation, the centres, what the public saw and heard was no different from the removal of Jews and other 'undesirables'. It often overlapped.

The inaction, by stark comparison of Church authorities, to me remains jarring because it demonstrates some element of 'choice'.

For those not of the cognescenti (including myself of course), who are clueless as to what the heck Aktion 4 refers to:

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


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