Without considering partisanship/VRA s, do you deem this AZ map fair?

[Torie]

https://davesredistricting.org/maps#viewmap::6fd05000-c100-49cc-aad1-ed0a328fc6d4

VRA not included because I don't like splitting Tucson. Feel free to propose maps that do though.

I think it is basically "fair," but you were sloppy about keeping the Reservations together and that south AZ CD going from Show Low to Yuma is unwieldy, and you can beat the Hispanic rap that Sol brought up, although I don't think there is racially polarized voting in Tucson, by the map below, where a majority of the voters in a Dem primary would be Hispanic, which ipso facto makes it Hispanic performing anyway in a safe Dem CD. The map also happens to keep Tucson in one CD. What do you think?

https://davesredistricting.org/join/a90535ce-d79f-4abc-96fe-9bcbee7c965f
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[Torie]

Not splitting a city when it alone could make up a district doesn't disenfranchise anyone. That being said, it seems like this map is 6-3 R (all the R districts voted Trump by 9 or more) and that exclave is resoundingly ugly and unnecessary.

"Without considering partisanship"

No (considered the source)

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=481075.msg8455108#msg8455108

This is part of a series. You should probably come to geography board more often (or, preferably, not)

https://davesredistricting.org/maps#viewmap::6fd05000-c100-49cc-aad1-ed0a328fc6d4

VRA not included because I don't like splitting Tucson. Feel free to propose maps that do though.

I think it is basically "fair," but you were sloppy about keeping the Reservations together and that south AZ CD going from Show Low to Yuma is unwieldy, and you can beat the Hispanic rap that Sol brought up, although I don't think there is racially polarized voting in Tucson, by the map below, where a majority of the voters in a Dem primary would be Hispanic, which ipso facto makes it Hispanic performing anyway in a safe Dem CD. The map also happens to keep Tucson in one CD. What do you think?

https://davesredistricting.org/join/a90535ce-d79f-4abc-96fe-9bcbee7c965f
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I like this map with two concerns.

1. Do you not find it unwieldy to have a Mohave to Yuma district? I tried to avoid drawing one for that reason.

2. Other than the res (which I forgot about in the initial map, tbh), what's the justification behind the Pinal split?

1. No. I don't have a problem with a Colorado River CD, and find that better than a Tucson CD crossing 200 miles of desert to grab some Hispanic precincts in Yuma.

2. One must make choices. Here are three alternatives to splitting Pinal:

https://davesredistricting.org/join/c95dd0fa-05ad-4af9-86b5-e742fe3440d1

https://davesredistricting.org/join/fb59a268-cdc7-47fb-b707-f2f0017ae7b8

https://davesredistricting.org/join/8f1156cd-707b-4955-8232-4f8911f7d71d