Clinton leaves 9/11 memorial early due to 'overheating' - Update: diagnosed with pneumonia

[Torie]

Here is a Fox News clip on it.

[Torie]

Here is a Fox News clip on it.

It seems you were right all along. She is ill, perhaps terminally.

I certainly hope not. We need to find out her medical condition though. These fainting spells are happening on a somewhat regular basis. But hey, if she drops out, Kaine can be switched in, and he will win big, and the nation will be spared having to make a horrible Hobson's choice this November. Kaine is a fine public servant, with an excellent temperament and honest.

[Torie]

It's all over  CNN now as well, reporting the same thing, and quoting the same law enforcement source, that she was helped out of the venue, waited for her motorcade, and then stumbled to the car, almost fell, lost her shoe, and was helped into the car. CNN added that she was driven to Chelsea's apartment, where she is now resting. The Clinton campaign said she was "over heated." But hey, it's not that hot in NY today, unlike yesterday. We has some rain this morning that cooled things off.

[Torie]

She was "overheated." Who cares.

And I bet a dead Hillary Clinton is still preferred to a living Donald Trump by a majority of Americans.

That should be in the next national poll

Since Clinton has not yet been examined by a doctor (she want straight to her daughter's apartment), that instant "diagnosis" seems to be about as much value as the speculation here. Why does she keep having these fainting spells?

[Torie]

It's all over  CNN now as well, reporting the same thing, and quoting the same law enforcement source, that she was helped out of the venue, waited for her motorcade, and then stumbled to the car, almost fell, lost her shoe, and was helped into the car. CNN added that she was driven to Chelsea's apartment, where she is now resting. The Clinton campaign said she was "over heated." But hey, it's not that hot in NY today, unlike yesterday. We has some rain this morning that cooled things off.

Get back in the basket of deplorables. Hillary was 100% right about Trump supporters. This BS is stunning. You aren't a doctor, so you can't make any sort of judgments. Sickening.

I didn't make any diagnosis (nor am I a Trump supporter, but you have made clear that you think I am being disingenuous about that). Is it at all possible for you to be reasonably civil on this forum?

[Torie]

She was "overheated." Who cares.

And I bet a dead Hillary Clinton is still preferred to a living Donald Trump by a majority of Americans.

That should be in the next national poll

Since Clinton has not yet been examined by a doctor (she want straight to her daughter's apartment), that seems about as much value as the speculation here. Why does she keep having these fainting spells?

There is nothing in the reporting on this that said she fainting. The devil is a liar. God bless you, because you are an unclean spirit.

Some sort of vertigo would be more accurate. You are right about that.

[Torie]

Guys, don't turn a fly into an elephant ...

She was only fainting at an emotional ceremony.

That's not "terminally ill".

This happens all the time: when we visit the graveyard at All Saints Day, each year people are fainting and collapsing. Politicians are not exempt from that.

Your "diagnosis" is that she was overcome with emotion? OK.

[Torie]

Hypothetical: What happens if she withdraws due to health issues?

Check my link above. The Dem Committee picks another candidate. In fact that can happen any time before the electoral college meets, even after the election.

[Torie]

Hypothetical: What happens if she withdraws due to health issues?

Check my link above. The Dem Committee picks another candidate. In fact that can happen any time before the electoral college meets, even after the election.

But her name would remain on the ballot in many states?

If they have already been printed. But that won't happen for about another month in most places.

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It is a really bad optics...

https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

Is that video even real? The person seems sketchy and is saying yes to everyone who wants to use his video. Seems suspicious.

The video matches exactly what the law enforcement source said that the TV channels reported.

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It is a really bad optics...

https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

Is that video even real? The person seems sketchy and is saying yes to everyone who wants to use his video. Seems suspicious.

IDK. Nate Cohn (Nytimes Upshot) retweeted it (Kyle Blaine, BuzzFeed).

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CNN just showed the video, and did not question its authenticity. And then showed a clip where she left the apartment, and did not answer questions, other than to say she felt much better.

[Torie]

It is a really bad optics...

https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

Is that video even real? The person seems sketchy and is saying yes to everyone who wants to use his video. Seems suspicious.

IDK. Nate Cohn (Nytimes Upshot) retweeted it (Kyle Blaine, BuzzFeed).

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CNN just showed the video, and did not question its authenticity. And then showed a clip where she left the apartment, and did not answer questions, other than to say she felt much better.

I would expect CNN to ask questions. They havent even addressed Trump being overweight or questioned if he has high blood pressure, diabetes or if he has had heart attacks or strokes.

They should and should put heat on both candidates to release all of their medical records. Trump is unfit to be POTUS anyway, so the state of his physical health is mere surplusage, but I digress.

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Dem hacks, do you honestly believe she should stay in the race?

I would vote for her over Trump even if she was on life support.

Of course, since the backup is Kaine. Hillary made an excellent decision there.

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Clinton gets heat exhaustion in 90 degree weather in full dress cloths. Trump doesn't pay people, runs scams and rapes people, who is worse?

The question is not about who is worse, but who is fit to be president.
Hillary clearly isn't due to her health problems. She should drop out and the Dems should appoint a new nominee.

Oh how I love it when "blue" avatars are Hillary supporters. Like that woman has ever really been nice to a Republican.

I hope Illary Clinton is feeling better and stays in the race.

Fake conservatives like you are the reason why the party is likely going into permanent second class party status. Hatred and racism won't win nationally and as older people die off it makes it even harder to win statewide across the country.

I think you are a fake conservative. Anyone who would even consider voting for Clinton is not a conservative.

Some "conservatives" think Trump is fake about nearly everything, and his presentation seems most similar to what a hopelessly narcissistic reckless crypto fascist would say. So why would it be unreasonable for a conservative to vote for a prevaricating liberal, given that? What does "conservatism" mean anymore anyway? The grab bag of characters affecting that label, are all over the lot. What do Ryan and Trump agree on when it comes to policy? Not much.

God I hate labels. All I ask is for someone who is honest, has a good temperament, and displays good judgment.

[Torie]

Why can't people accept the most likely reason (hypothyroidism)?

You are probably right. But the Hillary campaign should get that all out there. And why did her meds fail her?

[Torie]

Here is a video from another angle.

[Torie]

Why can't people accept the most likely reason (hypothyroidism)?

You are probably right. But the Hillary campaign should get that all out there. And why did her meds fail her?

Hello, hypothyroid woman here.

The meds actually are what make you more susceptible to heat, so this is probably on them. It's one of the most common side-effects. They make your internal organs much more happy, but the downside is less tolerance for heat. See here: http://www.rxlist.com/armour-thyroid-side-effects-drug-center.htm "sensitivity to heat"

As a 30 year old woman who can't stand long periods out in the sun without some relief, I'm really impressed by her stamina. She definitely just needed some rest. As for being fit to be president, as long as she doesn't have to go lead from the front in some war, I think she'll be just as fine as anyone else her age.  So, yeah, she's fine.

Thanks.

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What is killing Hillary is that they said that she was suffering from the heat, when either they knew it was false, or just winged it, because Hillary's lips were sealed about what in fact was the case. Both possibilities are bad. That fits a narrative about her single most problematic character flaw - she is secretive and deceptive, and trusts nobody - a mild form of paranoia. I am not sure the campaign fully gets it yet. The "fix" is for her to take risks, answer questions with candor, expose herself to hostile situations, let it all hang out, and get out of the run out the clock mode. Only Hillary has the "talent" to make Trump viable as a candidate, and only Trump has the talent to make Hillary viable. And Hillary is doing her best to level they playing field.  Hillary is putting the nation at risk, and indeed the planet. Disgusting! Throw her into the "deplorable" basket!