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Torie
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« on: June 15, 2012, 10:57:10 AM »

I don't understand how the POTUS has the unilateral power to do this. And is it clear that he does? If not, I see another SCOTUS case on the horizon.
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Torie
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 12:29:54 AM »
« Edited: June 22, 2012, 12:44:51 PM by Torie »

Maybe we should deport all of the Carls, since people named Carl have murdered people before.

What, no respect for the victims of the Carls?

Still unable to deal with facts.

Now, if someone commits a crime, and law enforcement is aware of it, but does NOTHING, and then that person subsequently kills someone else, where that person would have been unable to kill said person if the original crime had been prosecuted, then such action is prima facie negligence.

A separate example is of the person currently accused of the attack on several persons, including a federal judge and member of Congress over a year ago.  If he had been prosecute for illegal drug possession, instead of diversion, he would likely have been convicted, and ineligible to purchase (or possess) a firearm.

So, this has nothing whatsoever with the name of any individuals, but rather with their acts.  I must admit I am not surprised neither you nor Ernest can grasp this concept.

Given that the policy is to deport illegals when caught committing a felony, maybe after serving time, is it at all clear that those that remain are more likely to commit crimes than legal immigrants? Or native borns?  In any event, you are assuming that not granting "amnesty" means the potential killers will decamp, even though they have not for years and years. Most of the illegals at the end of day will not be leaving, except by self deportation Carl in some instances, probably in general by otherwise law abiding illegals. So that is another problematical assumption of yours. Your causative chain is more attenuated than a Rube Goldberg toy.

Of course the cohort of illegals kept in the twilight zone by this questionable executive order (no green card, but they won't be deported), are among the least likely to commit crimes at all, of the illegal cohort, or any cohort at all. They have clean records. And now they can't earn a living legally. Brilliant!

The illegal immigration issue is a tough nut to crack and get right, no doubt about it. You are going down a cul de sac when it comes to discussing any resolution that makes much sense at all.
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