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reagente
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E: 5.10, S: 4.96

« on: August 02, 2020, 03:48:30 PM »

Rules against underage drinking exist for a reason. Alcohol is harmful to minors development, and underage people can not be trusted to drink responsibly. We should continue to discourage underage drinking via fines. A warning is completely toothless if there is no eventual consequence.

I oppose this bill.

I concur. Why even have a law against underage drinking if we won't attach any practical consequence to it? Who is deterred by a toothless law?

I would be amenable to removing jail sentence for an "ordinary" act of underage drinking, but fines should absolutely remain. Or, if this is simply a public health crisis, then minors caught drinking ought to have to attend some sort of mandatory sobriety program.
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reagente
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E: 5.10, S: 4.96

« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2020, 08:12:17 PM »

Truthfully I'm on the fence on this. My biggest concern is the harm alcohol causes to brain development when consumed at a young age, I worry that by passing this bill, we'd be sending a message that the government is giving the green light to underage drinking.

What would people's thoughts be on an amendment similar to what Delegate Reagente suggested: remove it as a criminal offense, just state that minor consumption results in a fine up to $100 and requirement to attend a government-approved drug and alcohol course. With such amendment, I would vote in favor of this, but I'll wait to hear feedback from both sides of the issue.
I'd sign that bill since it's better than the current situation but I still don't really agree with that sort of punishment.

If we aren't going to have any deterrent for underage individuals, why not just abolish the drinking age altogether? I don't see why we should punish only the supply side of this if we don't care at all about deterring the demand side.
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reagente
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E: 5.10, S: 4.96

« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2020, 11:12:51 AM »

With no objections, the amendment is adopted.

How do delegates feel about the current version, are people more comfortable voting for it?

I am comfortable voting for it.
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reagente
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E: 5.10, S: 4.96

« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2020, 08:50:05 AM »

DTC's amendment has been adopted.

Any more discussion before a final vote?

I am ready to have a final vote.
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reagente
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E: 5.10, S: 4.96

« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2020, 01:08:15 PM »

aye
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