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« on: May 04, 2021, 11:50:11 AM »
« edited: May 04, 2021, 12:05:20 PM by Calthrina950 »

It's interesting how hypocritical and sanctimonious most Congressional Republicans have become, and how they're trying to make us forget that the last four years have happened. They're attacking Biden for not being bipartisan, leaning upon the words "socialism" and "big government" to assail his proposals-words which they've used for decades now, and claiming that it is the Democrats, not they, who are the extremists who are out to destroy democracy.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2021, 12:22:31 PM »

McCarthy's weak and inept responses remind me of the drawn-out dethroning of Theresa May. It seems he can neither defend or move against Cheney, and he's doing a pretty poor job of smoothing over tensions to boot. This reflects badly on his competency as a caucus leader and even if I were in ideological harmony with the guy, I'd be itching to have him replaced.

This whole saga also helps to demonstrate why he was passed over as Speaker back in 2015 in favor of Paul Ryan. The Republican caucus has never had a great amount of confidence in his abilities.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2021, 05:42:04 PM »

She never should have had that Postion to begin with given how little time she has been in the house

She got the position because of her last name.

As I have said repeatedly, Stefanik is future leadership. The future may be now.

And as I've said before, that's why she's gravitated to the right and was so staunchly supportive of Trump. It is reflective of the Republican Party's shift that a neoconservative Trump skeptic is going to be replaced by an ardent Trumpist with some "populist" tendencies.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 05:40:59 PM »

I completely get why Trump was immune from suffering consequences for his antidemocratic and norm-busting behaviour, but I still find it quite odd that his corruption and swampiness never hurt him much. I suppose the answer is that his voters didn’t actually care about these issues in and of themselves. Weird, because that type of behaviour is pretty much the most blatant example of pissing on the electorate possible.

The Republican base seems to care about those issues when they concern Democrats and those Republicans who they denounce as "RINOs", "Never Trumpers", or as part of the establishment. They don't care about those issues when they affect Trump, his family, his allies, and Republicans who identify themselves as ardent Trumpists. If anyone in those groups is implicated, then it becomes a "vast conspiracy" engineered by the media, the Democrats, and the Deep State.

However, at this point it is clear that most Republicans have decided to write away the events of January 6, and pretend that they never happened.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2021, 12:12:09 PM »

Why did she not run for Senate in 2020, thus securing her position until after the Trump cancer is wiped out?

She probably would have lost the primary to Cynthia Lummis, her predecessor in the House, who now holds that Senate seat.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2021, 10:43:57 AM »

I find it hillarious  that Trumpists think someone who voted with Trump 93% of the time is a traitor but someone who voted with Trump 78% of the time is a Trumpist .

That was the past. Stefanik is now 100%, and that's all that matters

Apparently, Chip Roy is attacking her for not being conservative enough. But it's clear that she has the support of the establishment and most of the caucus, and I expect her to take the Conference Chairmanship without much difficulty.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2021, 11:07:11 AM »

Surely they'll take action against Valadao now for supporting impeachment.

I'm not holding my breath.

Did Valadao ever release a statement about his impeachment vote? To me, it seems like he has remained quiet about it-which may be precisely why the Party won't move against him.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2021, 11:14:29 AM »

Surely they'll take action against Valadao now for supporting impeachment.

I'm not holding my breath.

Did Valadao ever release a statement about his impeachment vote? To me, it seems like he has remained quiet about it-which may be precisely why the Party won't move against him.

He did: https://valadao.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=37

But at the same time, he's not in leadership and represents a blue-leaning district, so people might be willing to give him more of a pass on his votes.

I agree. Valadao is the only Republican who can win that district, so that gives him more leeway, and will probably help him win reelection next year.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2021, 09:29:32 AM »


Chip Roy's challenge to Stefanik, based upon his claim that she wasn't sufficiently conservative, failed by a substantial margin.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2021, 06:32:51 PM »


Chip Roy's challenge to Stefanik, based upon his claim that she wasn't sufficiently conservative, failed by a substantial margin.

This just goes to show that Republicans no longer care about "conservative" positions.  Chip Roy has a near-perfect rating from Heritage Action and the ACU, while Stefanik scores under 50% with both.

This is correct. Loyalty to Trump, and his vision of the Republican Party, outweighs everything else. This is precisely why Cheney lost her leadership position, despite being one of the most solidly conservative Republicans in the House.
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