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[Calthrina950]

Yet another thread with people politicizing a despicable and disgusting incident. Will there be any disaster that will not be politicized by this website?

[Calthrina950]

Yet another thread with people politicizing a despicable and disgusting incident. Will there be any disaster that will not be politicized by this website?

Don't politicise an act that was political to begin with? Seriously?

Politicizing it in the sense of blaming one's political opponents. What I mean by this is pinning the blame for this incident straight at Trump, when the man who did this was way far to the right and actually despised Trump for being pro-Israel. But pushing forth an agenda seems to be the objective of most of the left-leaning posters on this forum.

Yet another thread with people politicizing a despicable and disgusting incident. Will there be any disaster that will not be politicized by this website?

Why I didn't put you on ignore long before this is beyond me.

I've had you on my ignore list for a long time. I just deigned to respond to a few of your posts that I felt needed a response. No longer. I have no interest in conversing with people who are rude to others and who indulge in the free use of profanity, on a forum that should be above that.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

He bashed Trump for being a globalist. He's rightwing.

I did not try to dissociate the right side of the political spectrum from this. And I've even said in some of my earlier posts that this man is clearly far out on the right, and is, more strictly speaking, an adherent of the far-right. What I am trying to say is that people on here are avoiding the uncomfortable fact that the left wing too, has its anti-semites, and that there are anti-semitic people within or in support of the Democratic Party, such as Sarsour and Omar.

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

No one is pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism", we are saying that this particular instance of extreme violence is an act of right-wing terrorism and that the President is complicit because if you substitute "Jews" for "Soros" (what is the difference anyways?), the President's rhetoric is no different than this man's rhetoric.

I agree that this particular incident is an act of right-wing terrorism. But it has been construed by many on here as to mean that all Republicans should be held to blame for this. If this had been a Muslim or someone of that kind, who had strong left-wing affiliations, who committed this act in the "name of Allah", would the reaction be the same on here? I'm not so sure it would be. Acts of violence, regardless of who perpetuates them, should be condemned in a universal, sweeping manner. Turning this into a political issue, of the nature that the predominantly left-wing community of this forum has, is not proper.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.

[Calthrina950]

People coming into a thread about a Bannonite Nazi shooting up a synagogue to scold people on the left for anti-semites in their caucus is Peak 2018.

Evading the point of what I said again. And given that the shooter hated Trump for being "controlled by the Jews", it makes my point go even further. I am not a Trump supporter, as I've made clear many times, but I've grown distressed by the blatant bias and partisanship displayed by so many on here, day in and day out.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.

No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

Minimal compared to Republican members, with the only one coming to mind is the banned Cora. How interesting you glossed over the very first portion of my post? Also yes, you honestly put very little individual thought compared to what is stated by the twitter feeds I’m getting.

People coming into a thread about a Bannonite Nazi shooting up a synagogue to scold people on the left for anti-semites in their caucus is Peak 2018.

Evading the point of what I said again. And given that the shooter hated Trump for being "controlled by the Jews", it makes my point go even further. I am not a Trump supporter, as I've made clear many times, but I've grown distressed by the blatant bias and partisanship displayed by so many on here, day in and day out.

No, but you act like the majority of Germans that weren’t members of the Nazi party that defended his actions whenever there is controversy
 

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I was going to ignore her prior posts, but I have to respond to this by saying "Hear hear!"

These posts all serve merely as further validation of my points. I have routinely emphasized that anti-semitism is present on both ends of the political spectrum, but that point continues to be ignored. The drive, instead, seems to be to further the narrative of "This is all the right's fault, and we share no blame or culpability for the issues of violence and threats which have descended upon this country." Seeking to escape responsibility isn't the best recourse of action. And people on here seem to derive joy from shouting down at those who don't toe the line that seems to prevail.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

You and your both sides do it which is why I am so offended the Democrats style of pearl clutching really could use a giant glass of STFU juice right now.

Seriously, kindly go away for a couple days from this thread until you have something remotely positive to contribute.

99% sure this is that concern troll sockmaker Svensson guy from yesteryear. He knows what he's doing.

You are sorely mistaken. Just because I have an opposing viewpoint from the majority of people means that I am a troll? That is a low blow.

And shame on you, Badger, for your continued display of rudeness and partisanship. Such a display is completely uncalled for. But you have shown it towards many other people on this forum, time and time again.

[Calthrina950]

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.

No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.

Of course they are all just donors and the only difference is who they donate to, but that isn't that point. You don't need to layer in criticism of someone when you are condemning them being sent a bomb. It just looks as if you are adding a "but" to justify said person being threatened.

Not an effort to justify threats towards anyone. An effort to point out the double standard which has reared itself here again.

[Calthrina950]

Louise Farrakhan endorsed Trump and the rest have no connections with voters nor leadership. Meanwhile fascism has literally been found from the top down in the Republican Party. Again, stop pretending to be politically deaf. I don’t even give this level of care to the admitted racists, of whom the last stand is all Republican, over here. In fact, mods, are we sure this poster has a unique IP and isn’t a sock from banned posters or Russia/China.

Also I made my point against the Koch bros. above.

You think that I am a Russian or Chinese bot? Or a sock? And are calling for an IP check on me? That is it. You are now the latest addition to my already lengthy ignore list. Any further conversation with you is not worth it and will derail this thread further.

[Calthrina950]

Very impressive work by Catherine to make the killing of 11 jews all about herself

Confusing me for a woman, as I've made clear many times that I am not. No matter. You too, are now on my ignore list.

[Calthrina950]

You mean the same report that indicates they had the highest percentage increase in 2017 but they've had in over 20 years? That report?

Yes, the same report that showed a 47% decrease in the number of physical attacks over 2016. It looks like 2016 may have been a decrease from 2015.

Harassment was up, though there can be some explanations that have nothing to with politics or antisemitism (and it is a strange story). 

Vandalism was where there was a increase, but that might be due to better reporting.

JJ, you are amazing. But early and completely amazing. And by amazing I totally don't mean obstinate to the point of foolishness.
I am so not going to put you on ignore. Your dithering about like an internet mr. Magoo is simply hilarious

You should read the report.  I suspect that you won't read anything.

This is exactly what I've been fighting against. People should be more open and more capable of engaging in intellectual conversation, without resorting to nasty mudslinging.

[Calthrina950]

The Jewish people have been the targets of hatred, based usually on envy, for longer than I've been alive.  It's be a feature of the diaspora for centuries.  In Russia.  In Eastern Europe.  In the Middle East.  In France.  And in Germany, which, before Hitler came to power, was considered one of the more liberal and tolerant destinations for Jews.

My oldest and best friends in New York, where I grew up. were mostly Jewish.  They have all heard the ugliness of anti-Semetism in all sorts of forms.  The sources of resentment was usually resentment toward their wealth; what was never mentioned by the haters was the extreme sacrifices Jewish immigrants made for their children to have better lives.  They made wise choices, they valued education.  I know some of the older Jewish immigrants (now long passed, I'm sure) and the extreme sacrifices they made so their children could go to college and beyond.  THIS was the source of most of the envy and resentment toward Jews that I saw.  I know many Jews personally that are well off, economically, and every one of my personal acquaintances and friends have in their ancestry someone who came with nothing, sacrificed for their future generations, and, if they were fortunate, lived long enough to see and enjoy some of that pay off.

I have not spoken to any of my older friends today.  They all live up north.  I cannot imagine that Donald Trump is on THEIR minds.  Anti-Semetism, yes; Donald Trump, no.  And I doubt any of them voted for Trump either.  Period.

Are people not better than to whip up blaming Trump for THIS on the eve of midterms?  If he were really at fault for this, that would be one thing, but he's not, yet people push this particular card aggressively.  If the people of Squirrel Hill are saying this, I'll listen.  If it's overly-policiticized Red Atlas Avatars, well, meybe it's time for a sabbatical from politics.

This is a much better articulation of what I've been trying to argue on here today.

[Calthrina950]

It is nice that people are calling out Calthrina950 both sides schtick. He tries to act self-righteous and above the partisan bickering. But nearly all of his talking points are textbook whataboutism from the right.

Christ, at least Sanchez doesn't hide who he is.

I consider myself to be a centrist, but your words, and the words of others on here, have poisoned further my view of this forum. I am not engaging in whataboutism, no matter how much you think I am.

[Calthrina950]

This thread has degenerated even further over the past few hours, with comments continuing to attack me and others for trying to present a reasoned perspective on these issues. People have continued to embark upon a great endeavor to politicize this issue, expressing opinions that are way over the line, and attacking any who deviate from those opinions. Throughout, I have emphasized that extremism exists on both ends of the political spectrum. Anti-semitism is reprehensible, no matter what form it is expressed in, and the violent massacre at this synagogue should not have occurred. But at the same time, I've been trying to warn people from turning this into a tool with which to hit their political opponents with. Unfortunately, people on here have not heeded that advice.

[Calthrina950]

Anti-semitism is one of those things that a lot of us have been able to think was effectively gone: only something that cranks believe.  I think that the events of the last few years and especially this have woken a lot of people up; including myself.  It is important that we call out anti-semitism wherever we see it since that is probably the only vaguely effective way that vaguely ordinary people can prevent this sort of sh**t from happening.  I think that you have to the people around you though: may it be the people that you are politically involved with or your own family and friends.  In that regard I'm always going to be more critical of left-wing anti-semitism since those are people that I am theoretically closer to and I'd rather not have that crap further infest political communities that I support.  Talking a lot about the problems of the neighbours side while ignoring the leaking roof in your own house is something that isn't exactly going to benefit anyone: eventually you'll have to pay a lot more to fix the damage that you've ignored, and the neighbour will probably be affected by that leak and after that is probably a lot less likely to listen to your criticism of his house.

However since this attack was committed by a Nazi I think that it should be natural that the focus is on anti-semitism from the right; after all that is what caused this attack.  The normalisation of anti-semitic rhetoric in certain parts of the right is something which is very, very worrying and as David said its starting to bleed out of the sections of the right that no one really wants to be associated with to more... respectable, for lack of a better word, bits.  Rhetoric that a few years ago would have been outright rejected or at least led to very awkward silence is now tolerated a lot more and that isn't a good thing since by tolerating that sort of speech you effectively normalise it.  And that can lead to people like this evil man thinking that major political figures who've flirted with that sort of speech actually agrees with them which can weirdly end up radicalising them further.  Add in the right wing press which has shifted in a direction which seems to agree with a fair few anti-semitic tropes (the Soros stuff is the major one; Breitbart's weird focus on some Jewish organisations, etc) and you have an environment which is more friendly towards anti-semites and it should be no surprise that they've started to be more open.  Its the job of all of us to make sure that it doesn't become further normalised.

This thread has degenerated even further over the past few hours, with comments continuing to attack me and others for trying to present a reasoned perspective on these issues. People have continued to embark upon a great endeavor to politicize this issue, expressing opinions that are way over the line, and attacking any who deviate from those opinions. Throughout, I have emphasized that extremism exists on both ends of the political spectrum. Anti-semitism is reprehensible, no matter what form it is expressed in, and the violent massacre at this synagogue should not have occurred. But at the same time, I've been trying to warn people from turning this into a tool with which to hit their political opponents with. Unfortunately, people on here have not heeded that advice.

11 people were murdered by a Nazi just for being Jewish.  This is not equatable in any way to people being mean towards a dumb person on the internet who tries to deemphasise the political component of that violence and suggest that the average poster on this forum is equivalent to the evil man who murdered these people is incredibly, mindblowingly insulting.  To try and claim that the way that you have been treated on an internet forum is at all equatable to anti-semitic murder is disgusting and shows the massively misplaced ego that you have about yourself.  Not everything is about you and by claiming it is you show how little you care about others and how much you care only about yourself.

Have any of you heard what I've been trying to say? Obviously, you have not! I have not tried to compare my experiences with the pain that the victims of this tragedy have suffered. Nor have I tried to suggest that people on here are as culpable as the shooter. But most of the posters on here just don't seem to understand it. IceAgeComing, PSOL, Badger, Yank2133, InvisibleObama, ProudModerate2, the list goes on and on of people who have repeatedly said that "I've done this" and "I've done that." Are you even listening to yourselves?

You guys realize when you say things like "the president encourages anti-Semitic violence by opposing immigration" you're linking Jewish people and immigration? Isn't that supposed to be a conspiracy theory?

It is.

I am, unfortunately, seeing a lot of parallels between today's left and the right in Germany in the 1920's and early 30's.

I am not a big Trump guy, and disagree with him on some of his policies.   However, I'm looking at the alternative and seeing an increasingly radicalized left, that has even protested against a democratic election.  

It could be that the radical left was the real attacker of Dr. Ford in the Kavanaugh assault case. It could be. I’m seeing connections.

Are you sure the Illuminati wasn't involved?
I was really hoping for the Illuminati.

Gurl I want my IP check on JJ and Calthrina. We have a right to know if these people are newly here and insane or a psyop by our adversaries. It’s your civic duty to tell and react accordingly.

Everyone get's checked, even you.

I have nothing to hide here.

I have nothing to hide either. You are one of the most offensive posters I have ever encountered on this forum, and are the first person to ever suggest that I am some troll or operative. Arrogance and rudeness does not get anyone anywhere.

[Calthrina950]

The difference here is that there's a direct link to what Trump's been saying the last week or so about this caravan as the biggest crisis facing the country now, coming right for us, and this nutjob deciding to shoot up a synagogue because he was upset about the caravan.

No, there isn't.

1.  There is no link between the caravan and HIAS.

2. There is no link between HIAS and the Tree of Life Congregation that I could find (and I did look).

3.  There is no link between the caravan and the Tree of Life Congregation that I could find (and I did look).

Well, if only the shooter had done as thorough of research as you, it might never have happened.

What do you mean by this? Are you using this one sentence to dismiss his entire argument? I suspect so. To me, it seems as if this man was motivated, above all else, by his extreme anti-semitism. He is undoubtedly a white supremacist, but this specific attack was motivated by his hatred for one specific group (i.e. Jews), which he expressed most often.

... Are people not better than to whip up blaming Trump for THIS on the eve of midterms?  If he were really at fault for this, that would be one thing, but he's not, yet people push this particular card aggressively.  If the people of Squirrel Hill are saying this, I'll listen.  If it's overly-policiticized Red Atlas Avatars, well, meybe it's time for a sabbatical from politics.

Well here you go Fuzzy.
"The people of Squirrel Hill are saying" exactly what we have been saying.
Clear your ears of wax and "listen" ...

Former president of the Tree of Life Synagogue Lynette Lederman says President Trump is a "purveyor of hate speech" and is not welcome in Pittsburgh in the wake of a shooting that killed 11.

Watch video here: https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/10/29/lynette-lederman-trump-not-welcome-pittsburgh-intv-newday-sot-vpx.cnn

This is one speaker, although I'll respect her opinion.  Not yours, of course.

Respectfully, it's not her place to say Donald Trump is not welcome in Pittsburgh.  He's the President, and he OUGHT to be in Pittsburgh.  There is a problem with Americans when they declare that their President is not welcome in their town.  And I remember people being taken aback when people said similar things about Obama, and rightly so.

"This one speaker" is the former president of the Tree of Life Synagogue. She is well respected in her community and at this place of worship. It is her place to say that the Orange Moron in not welcome in that neighborhood/synagogue. The one person who does not have "a say" in who should (or who should not) be there is YOU.
Besides she is not the only one. There are state, county and city government officials (and community leaders) that are telling trump No, Go Away, You Are Not Welcome.

Oh and by the way ... if you "respect her opinion," then you also respect mine by default since her opinion and mine were the same. So suck on that for a while.

I'm not going to get into the details of whether or not Trump should have gone to Pittsburgh, but I do understand why its residents would not want him there. And given that he was greeted with protests, their opinions were made very clear.