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JGibson
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« on: May 27, 2024, 03:58:19 PM »

1) Israel is not committing genocide in Gaza.  This is simply an objective fact and claiming it is committing genocide is about as credible as claiming that 1 + 1 = eleventy-hunteen.  With all due respect, claiming Israel is committing genocide in Gaza simply isn’t a reasonable enough position to merit being taken seriously except in the sense of refuting misinformation and inaccurate claims.

2) Israel never had widespread international support right after 10/7, this is simply revisionist history.  Almost immediately after 10/7, there was a loud onslaught on increasingly aggressive demands for an immediate unconditional ceasefire and vague threats of serious consequences if Israel responded militarily.  

3) Regarding the Israeli military and political establishment ignoring the ICC, we’ll see.  Every day there is a new story about one side reviewing someone or another’s proposal.  I’ll believe it when I see it, especially since Egypt has been an almost comically bad-faith mediator, routinely showing completely different proposals to each side and falsely claiming the other side already signed off on it.  

4) There is no such thing as Palestine right now and the PA has no authority to sign anything.  The West Bank and Gaza Strip are currently part of Israel.  The ICC has no jurisdiction, regardless of whether the UN felt like playing pretend in 2012 or the PA’s imaginary government signed the Rome Statute on behalf of a non-existent “country.”

5) I’m okay with the Putin warrant as a way for the international community to thumb its nose at Putin  and an excuse to further inconvenience him, but I don’t think they have jurisdiction in the Russia-Ukraine war either.  That said, I don’t really care too much either because Russia is an American enemy engaging in a genocidal war of aggression.  Sure, the warrant on Putin is technically deficient and the ICC had no jurisdiction supporting its issuance, but also…you know…who cares?

Couple of points to push back on:
1: Israel Apartheid State IS committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in Gaza.

4: There IS such a thing as Palestine, as 143 UN nations have recognized it. It's just that West Bank and Gaza are illegally occupied by Israel.
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