The Chronicle of the Death of the Atlasian Right (VERY VERY VERY DEAD!)

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Lumine is right wing lol

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Lumine is right wing lol

But didn't you vote for the "right wing" Wxtransit in April because of his corruption and for fhtagn and Yankee in February and June because you viewed them as the most competent candidates?

Yes but what does this have to do with anything? You asking me why I voted for Pericles over Lumine?

Edit: I endorsed fhtagn when no one was in the race and she looked likely to go unopposed.

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Lumine is right wing lol

But didn't you vote for the "right wing" Wxtransit in April because of his corruption and for fhtagn and Yankee in February and June because you viewed them as the most competent candidates?

Yes but what does this have to do with anything? You asking me why I voted for Pericles over Lumine?

Yes, and also why did you vote for Weatherboy over Yankee?

Because I thought WB was capable of running an efficient presidency based on what I observed behind the scenes. Of course, debate hasn’t been substantive as I’d like. As for this election, both Pericles and Lumine have caused uproar in the past, but I do think Pericles will add debate and ideas to the Senate while Lumine seems focused on game reform, which doesn’t seem to be that high of a priority right now to the Senate. I will say I would have considered voting for Koppa had he been active in the debate and not dropped out but I don’t think he would have been active.

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Lumine is right wing lol

But didn't you vote for the "right wing" Wxtransit in April because of his corruption and for fhtagn and Yankee in February and June because you viewed them as the most competent candidates?

Yes but what does this have to do with anything? You asking me why I voted for Pericles over Lumine?

Yes, and also why did you vote for Weatherboy over Yankee?

Because I thought WB was capable of running an efficient presidency based on what I observed behind the scenes. Of course, debate hasn’t been substantive as I’d like. As for this election, both Pericles and Lumine have caused uproar in the past, but I do think Pericles will add debate and ideas to the Senate while Lumine seems focused on game reform, which doesn’t seem to be that high of a priority right now to the Senate. I will say I considered voting for Koppa had he been active in the debate and not dropped out.

How have you "observed behind the scenes" if you don't use discord? Also, Weatherboy has made no real contributions to Atlasia, whether it's ideological or game based, while Yankee had an extremely active and transparent administration that contributed a lot to the country.

I avoid the main Atlasia and Atlas discord but to say I’ve avoided it completely would be false. There’s no question Yankee had a real presence in the game - one that doesn’t seem to disappear no matter the office but I did think, seeing the effort put in to the previous election, that an effective left wing administration would be possible. While I don’t think the game is toxic and I am in fat of the administration’s policy proposals, debate hasn’t been substantive (more so in the Senate; the House seems better) and there seemed to be no effort put into Lincoln. But I’m not convinced we would have been in a better spot come February had Yankee been re-elected, as that would have been a likely left wing victory in an open election.

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Because I thought WB was capable of running an efficient presidency based on what I observed behind the scenes. Of course, debate hasn’t been substantive as I’d like. As for this election, both Pericles and Lumine have caused uproar in the past, but I do think Pericles will add debate and ideas to the Senate while Lumine seems focused on game reform, which doesn’t seem to be that high of a priority right now to the Senate. I will say I would have considered voting for Koppa had he been active in the debate and not dropped out but I don’t think he would have been active.

The House of Representatives is passing sweeping legislation that is pro-worker, pro-immigrant, and pro-Atlasian! We are currently amending the Constitution to make government work more efficiently. The Senate has likewise been drafting legislation. This has been a productive administration!

Ah yes! Prioritizing the passage amnesty for illegals surely satisfies the #Populist impulses of YE as well as "pro-worker" bills that do nothing to solve real problems in addition to attempting to amend the constitution to bypass the fair process for governing. Also, the Secretary of Internal Affairs remains unfilled and we have a president who spends more time posting memes on discord than governing. How wonderful indeed!

Nothing has gotten done in the Senate outside of the EFCA though in Sestak’s defense, I know he has A LOT on his plate. I don’t think the bill passed by the House is amnesty and I thought just requires a reason beyond being undocumented for deportation (hint: that means criminals can be deported).

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Because I thought WB was capable of running an efficient presidency based on what I observed behind the scenes. Of course, debate hasn’t been substantive as I’d like. As for this election, both Pericles and Lumine have caused uproar in the past, but I do think Pericles will add debate and ideas to the Senate while Lumine seems focused on game reform, which doesn’t seem to be that high of a priority right now to the Senate. I will say I would have considered voting for Koppa had he been active in the debate and not dropped out but I don’t think he would have been active.

The House of Representatives is passing sweeping legislation that is pro-worker, pro-immigrant, and pro-Atlasian! We are currently amending the Constitution to make government work more efficiently. The Senate has likewise been drafting legislation. This has been a productive administration!

Ah yes! Prioritizing the passage amnesty for illegals surely satisfies the #Populist impulses of YE as well as "pro-worker" bills that do nothing to solve real problems in addition to attempting to amend the constitution to bypass the fair process for governing. Also, the Secretary of Internal Affairs remains unfilled and we have a president who spends more time posting memes on discord than governing. How wonderful indeed!

Nothing has gotten done in the Senate outside of the EFCA though in Sestak’s defense, I know he has A LOT on his plate. I don’t think the bill passed by the House is amnesty and I thought just requires a reason beyond being undocumented for deportation (hint: that means criminals can be deported).

Waiving the risk of deportation essentially assures a flood of illegal immigrants. The proper way to handle this is in a bill like we did with Come out of the Shadows, which was a bipartisan compromise. This bill in the House not only undercuts that, it undercuts future enforcement as well as to facilitate cyclical amnesty, because it creates the assumption that future populations of illegals will just be legalized in turn. That just extends the problem we already have.

Also this defeatist acceptance of inactivity, "well everyone else is inactive so there isn't anything I can do?" That's bullsh**t!!!

The President can write and introduce legislation. The President can give speeches advocating for said bills, The President can PM congress members to get them on board and to make sure they are paying attention. The President can call on the people to demand likewise of their members. We are slowly but surely slipping into the Afleitch situation and we have a different constitution that empowers the President to do just that.


Where is the daily updates of the Chambers? Where is the daily PMs to all of the members? 

There is always something you can do. You can light the desks and the chairs on fire, that will get people off their asses. Doing nothing, conceding to inactivity and bemoaning general inactivity to justify other inactivity is not the solution to our problems. IT IS THE PROBLEM!!!

Waiving the risk of deportation isn’t a bad idea isn’t a bad idea for those staying a long time (that House version has 2007 as a starting date IIRC - correct me if I’m wrong. It allows people to come out of the shadows and the real fear of deportation barring any criminal activity (though a pathway for this was already outlined in the coming out of the shadows Act). As for stopping illegal immigration, two things need to be done. Border security and making sure employers are held accountable for hiring illegal immigrants (to be fair the coming out of the shadows act does seem to address this). I unlike some on the left think open borders is not practical and would only benefit David Koch and Sheldon Adelson.

As for the issue of inactivity, there is no one person responsible for the current situation but I’ve yet to see any evidence of a deafetist attitude from the administration. But the bottom line is not much is getting done as I would like. From my prospective, and I say this as the only left wing executive office holder and the longest tenured consecutive elected official, the minimum I’d ask is for stuff that actually get going in the Senate where issues are being debated and stuff is reaching the president’s desk and that there is a degree of energy in both chambers. Of course, that to a large extent requires some sort of vision. Outside of being pro-labor, I haven’t seen too much of a policy agenda (but there could be more behind the scenes since I’m not part of the cabinet/DPC/NPC in any way, and even on the issue of unions, the two parties are polarized in the game to the point where I don’t think debating a bill will accomplish too much, especially since the EFCA was debated a bit between you and Nev when it was introduced several months back, I haven’t seen much if any a direct policy initiative; one can not always rely on just the legislative body for bills, and I’d argue a situation (luckily with a bicameral legislative body, this is much less of a risk) where one person writes everything is often a recipe disaster and leads to yes manning. Me personally in Fremont, I have a list of bills on my hard drive ready to be put in a quene for when things get dry bill wise. To be fair, there are some criticisms, including the handling of the SOIA or from what it appears on the surface, the day to day operations of the administration, that I don’t think are warranted.

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Can we all just cut it out? This is an internet forum, not CNN. There's no reason for any of you to get personal here.

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Fremont electing a left winger in a by election news at 11.

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This thread was, is, and always will be stupid.

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Yeah this is at least worthy of a thread now.

I still can’t believe how much of a bloodbath this was.

I’m sure they’ll be back eventually but still, this was a horrifically bad cycle for the right.

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How many regions would the right control right now if we had the pre-reset government structure though?

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February 2015

President: Labor Landslide 54%-31%. Fed ticket in third place!

Regional Seats: 4 Left, 1 Center 0 Fed
At-Large Seats: 4 Left 1 Center 0 Fed

NE: Battled between Labor and center left TPP
Mideast: Labor dominated with DR toehold in the Assembly, DR Governor. 1 Federalist Assemblyman
Midwest: Labor dominated up and down the ballot.
Pacific: TPP cesspool where the two biggest TPPers hated each other and bickered openly in public.
South: Toppled by a TPP coup.


Feds held 4 offices, three of which were appointed (Deputy GM, IDS Judicial Overlord, Supreme Court Justice)

Now lets have a little straight talk. Consolidation means that the 3 regions have a larger population and thus easier for Conservatives to struggle head to head against left wing candidates. It also means that all the regions are more sensitive to surges in left wing registration, whereas previously you always had one region or two where the left was weak. This happened a year ago, when everyone was crowing about Dead Labor, Labor controlled ALL 3 Regions, had a majority in the House and Senate.

The only difference was DFW was President, elected by running on a centrist platform.

The simple fact is every two years the left gets a windfall as energized posters join the Atlas, they register and vote and the left gets a boost. Internet demographics is a left leaning crowd, always been that way.

Post 2008: Recruitment by bgwah begins 2 years of JCP dominance
Post 2010: Massive Recruitment by Napoleon secures NE for JCP by summer 2011 and with it national elections again.
Post 2012: Massive Recruitment by Adam propels Labor over the Liberals by summer 2013
Post 2014: Results see early 2015 above
Post 2016: Blair's Recruitment drive gives them a +30 advantage, allowing them to win all three regions by summer 2017.

It is as predictable as the tides. In some cases the right has far back more aggressively or skillfully and neutered the effects, like 2017. Other times the bottom fell out like in 2015.

Time to add:

Post 2018: Sestak and other’s mass recruitment give gives Labor a massive advantage that resulted in 2/3rds of the House and 5/6 in the Senate.

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If you had told me 36 hours ago this would be bumped I thought it’d be for ridicule following a 15 or so vote loss.

Tbh idk what to say rn though I’ll probably have more to say tomorrow.