College Football pick'em 2017- Gameplay and scoring thread

[Alabama_Indy10]

I'm a TCU fan so I have tons of reasons to hate Baker Mayfield, but y'all crazy if you don't think he's winning the Heisman at this point.....

Clearly you haven't seen Bryce Love play this year.

Clearly you haven't seen Baker Mayfield play this year.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Baker Mayfield is SCUM!  I am so sick of the guy, first the disrespectful flag planting, and now he's injecting our televisions with filth.

No heisman for him.

Personally, I think Bryce Love was already the favorite...and Mayfield could still finish third behind Saquon Barkley.

Do you not watch ESPN or sports in general?? Mayfield is a HUGE favorite to win the Heisman.

[Alabama_Indy10]

With Baker Mayfield benched against West Virginia, I am switching my pick from the Sooners to the Mountaineers.

He’s not benched. He’s just not starting.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Jimbo Fisher isn’t going anywhere. Period.

[Alabama_Indy10]

November 23

Mississippi at Mississippi State

November 24

Northern Illinois at Central Michigan

Western Michigan at Toledo

Miami(FL) at Pittsburgh

Navy at Houston

Ohio at Buffalo

South Florida at UCF

Iowa at Nebraska

Virginia Tech at Virginia

Texas Tech at Texas

November 25

Alabama at Auburn

West Virginia at Oklahoma

Wisconsin at Minnesota

Georgia at Georgia Tech

Notre Dame at Stanford

Penn State at Maryland

Washington State at Washington

Michigan State at Rutgers

Northwestern at Illinois

Arizona at Arizona State

Colorado at Utah

Iowa State at Kansas State

Tulane at SMU

Ohio State at Michigan

Indiana at Purdue

Louisville at Kentucky

Florida State at Florida

Boston College at Syracuse

Duke at Wake Forest

Appalachian State at Georgia State

Southern Mississippi at Marshall

Old Dominion at Middle Tennessee

Arkansas State at Louisiana Monroe

North Carolina at NC State

Boise State at Fresno State

Vanderbilt at Tennessee

Oregon State at Oregon

Clemson at South Carolina

Texas A&M at LSU

UT San Antonio at Louisiana Tech

BYU at Hawaii

Air Force at Utah State

[Alabama_Indy10]

http://lastwordoncollegefootball.com/2017/11/22/10897/#

Chip Kelly has apparently chosen UCLA

[Alabama_Indy10]

Bret Bielema is out at Arkansas. Any thoughts where he may end up and who will be his replacement?

[Alabama_Indy10]

Good morning everyone! Roll Tide!

[Alabama_Indy10]

My best guess as to the final rankings will be: (Bold is the most likely team/seeding)

1. Georgia if they win the SEC Championship/Oklahoma if they win the Big Twelve Championship/Clemson (or Miami (FL)) if they win the ACC Championship.

2. Wisconsin if they win the Big Ten/Oklahoma if they win Big Twelve/Miami(FL) (or Clemson) if they win the ACC/USC if they win the PAC-12.

3. Ohio State if they win the Big Ten/Alabama.

4. Auburn if they win the SEC/Alabama/TCU if they win the Big Twelve/UCF if they win the AAC/USC if they win the PAC-12.

Why would a 2 loss Ohio State be in over a 1 loss Alabama?? Alabama's 1 loss is to the probable SEC Champion and Ohio State's 2 losses are to a very good Oklahoma team and a 31 point beat down by Iowa.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Why would a 2 loss Ohio State be in over a 1 loss Alabama?? Alabama's 1 loss is to the probable SEC Champion and Ohio State's 2 losses are to a very good Oklahoma team and a 31 point beat down by Iowa.

It would be very close. Ohio State has undoubtedly played a harder schedule than Alabama, although the loss to Iowa is definitely a black mark. They're both media and selection committee darlings too, so if there is a 2-loss conference champ (other than Auburn, of course) that could sneak past Bama, it's Ohio State.

I do agree with that. The committee will fight like hell to make sure Ohio State is in there.

[Alabama_Indy10]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2746133-report-jimbo-fisher-to-leave-fsu-has-texas-am-deal-after-kevin-sumlin-firing

Looks like Jimbo Fisher may be heading to Texas A&M

[Alabama_Indy10]

December 1

PAC-12 Championship Game (in Santa Clara, California)

Stanford at USC


December 2

AAC Championship Game
Memphis at UCF

Conference USA Championship Game

North Texas at Florida Atlantic

Big Twelve Championship Game (in Arlington, Texas)

TCU at Oklahoma

SEC Championship Game (in Atlanta)

Georgia at Auburn

Mountain West Championship Game

Fresno State at Boise State

ACC Championship Game (in Charlotte)

Miami(FL) at Clemson

Big Ten Championship Game (in Indianapolis)

Ohio State at Wisconsin


December 9

Army at Navy (in Philadelphia)

[Alabama_Indy10]

So Tennessee just fired its AD only 8 months in. Just remember, no matter how bad your program is, at least its not Tennessee bad.

Does this make the rumored Leach hire more or less likely, I wonder. More likely if Leach asked for a new AD to hire him, so that the new guy isn't working with the old guy's coach; less likely if the boosters forced Currie out due to frustration with the hiring process. Regardless, this whole thing is a cluster and is horribly reflective of UT.

This is even more embarrassing than the will-he-wont-he Harbaugh saga at UM, except UM got it's man and UT is just a dumpster fire.

Also, thanks for taking the time to write about Fisher. A lot to unpack there and some really good info. The recruiting must be infinitely frustrating as a fan, considering the three guys who left were all pretty well thought of. The UA angle is a really good one that I hadn't thought of. Jimbo really must've been banking on Arky landing Gus...

I also really feel for Oregon if FSU snags Taggart. They would have barely missed out on a reunion with Chip Kelly and would be pushed into an awful cycle for hiring a new coach. Wouldn't surprise me to see them target Brohm if Taggart leaves. Brohm would be a great cultural fit for Oregon with his offensive skills.

Brett McMurphy says Currie was prepared to offer the coaching job to Mike Leach. He was stopped by Phillip Fulmer and co. Says Fulmer is angling to replace him as AD.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Leach would have been an ace hire after all of the Schiano madness. Boosters pushing out an AD over a good hire like that, after fans essentially vetoed another coach is going to make it really hard to find a quality coach who'll put up with this crap. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tennessee just drop the interim tag from Brady "clapclapclap" Hoke.

I definitely agree that they should hire Mike Leach. I also think Lane Kiffin would be a good hire. But there’s no way he’s going back to Tennessee.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Dereich beat me to it but here’s an article. Another article says A&M offered him a 10 year deal worth 7.5 Million annually.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/898018001

[Alabama_Indy10]

Jimbo out! Beloved assistant/D Line coach Odell Haggins will be interim for tomorrow.

Thanks for the memories CJF.

I knew it!!!

If I'm FSU, I'd chase someone like Mark Stoops (Head Coach, Kentucky), Gus Malzahn (Head Coach, Auburn), Ed Orgeron (Head Coach, LSU) and Dabo Swinney (Head Coach, Clemson)

I’m not a fan of your list either. It’s like you named just random names. I think they’ll focus their search on Willie Taggert. Dark horse selection could be Lane Kiffin or Jeremy Pruitt.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Jimbo out! Beloved assistant/D Line coach Odell Haggins will be interim for tomorrow.

Thanks for the memories CJF.

I knew it!!!

If I'm FSU, I'd chase someone like Mark Stoops (Head Coach, Kentucky), Gus Malzahn (Head Coach, Auburn), Ed Orgeron (Head Coach, LSU) and Dabo Swinney (Head Coach, Clemson)

I’m not a fan of your list either. It’s like you named just random names. I think they’ll focus their search on Willie Taggert. Dark horse selection could be Lane Kiffin or Jeremy Pruitt.

Kiffin's a hard one to nail down. It's clear he's a good coach...but its also clear from his twitter that he's still wildly immature. I doubt FSU would go there, just like the other schools on the carousel.

Pruitt on paper looks great, but there were some...issues...with his departure from Tallahassee in 2013 that make his hiring very unlikely. He left essentially in the dead of night after promising to stay, there were rumors of (several) affairs that make his wife unlikely to want to come back, and his personality was so grating that he wasn't making many friends anyway.

And I mostly agree with everything you said Serious_Username; the list gets questionable after 2 or 3 people. But there might be other unknown possibilities; FSU is easy to win at and can pay with the best of them. The one thing I disagree with is the "pressure cooker" thing. It makes sense, to be sure...but there isn't really evidence of it. FSU has only had two coaches in the last 40 years and gave Bobby 5 or 6 bad years before he was eased out. FSU hasn't had a coach face a serious hot seat for a generation. The possibility exists, to be sure, but its not like FSU is like Florida or Auburn and will drop a coach at the drop of a hat or something. That's part of what makes FSU such an attractive job; you're basically secure unless you seriously mess up.

Taggart is my personal pick; I think he could out-recruit Mullen and Richt, for one. And USF's success this year is from his players.

I don’t believe Kiffin or Pruitt are terribly likely to get the job. Taggert is my pick as well.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I think Alabama should be in using Ohio State's precedent from last year. No conference championship. Also, I remember the argument last year against Penn State when people said something like "no team who got beat by 20+ points should be considered for the playoff." You can't just overlook a 31 point beat down by a 7-5 team. If Alabama had lost by 31 to a similar 7-5 team (Texas A&M) they would have been out of the discussion a while ago.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I think Alabama should be in using Ohio State's precedent from last year. No conference championship. Also, I remember the argument last year against Penn State when people said something like "no team who got beat by 20+ points should be considered for the playoff." You can't just overlook a 31 point beat down by a 7-5 team. If Alabama had lost by 31 to a similar 7-5 team (Texas A&M) they would have been out of the discussion a while ago.

Without that win against Oklahoma then I think the committee seriously considers Penn State. Alabama has no top 15 wins while Ohio State will probably have two top 10 wins. Sure the losses are bad but I think the quality wins should factor significantly into the equation; Alabama struggles down the stretch and weak schedule should probably leave them out but we’ll see (personally I think they will get in even if Ohio State probably should get in over Alabama.)

It really hurt Alabama to lose at the end of the season. If the shoe was on the other foot and Alabama lost earlier in the season against an equally good opponent like Auburn, they would be in the playoff no doubt. Just like if Ohio State lost by 30+ points late in the season.

Alabama's wins weren't as good but judging their whole body of work, they absolutely dominated their opponents. They absolutely dominated and there was a feeling that "man, this is the best team in the country." Ohio State didn't have that and it's extremely difficult to forget about that 31 point loss to a 7-5 team.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I think Alabama should be in using Ohio State's precedent from last year. No conference championship. Also, I remember the argument last year against Penn State when people said something like "no team who got beat by 20+ points should be considered for the playoff." You can't just overlook a 31 point beat down by a 7-5 team. If Alabama had lost by 31 to a similar 7-5 team (Texas A&M) they would have been out of the discussion a while ago.

Without that win against Oklahoma then I think the committee seriously considers Penn State. Alabama has no top 15 wins while Ohio State will probably have two top 10 wins. Sure the losses are bad but I think the quality wins should factor significantly into the equation; Alabama struggles down the stretch and weak schedule should probably leave them out but we’ll see (personally I think they will get in even if Ohio State probably should get in over Alabama.)

It really hurt Alabama to lose at the end of the season. If the shoe was on the other foot and Alabama lost earlier in the season against an equally good opponent like Auburn, they would be in the playoff no doubt. Just like if Ohio State lost by 30+ points late in the season.

Alabama's wins weren't as good but judging their whole body of work, they absolutely dominated their opponents. They absolutely dominated and there was a feeling that "man, this is the best team in the country." Ohio State didn't have that and it's extremely difficult to forget about that 31 point loss to a 7-5 team.

It was more of a scheduling thing for them this year. Their best win was against LSU, which isn't really as impressive as it could have been, and Ohio State just beat a top 4 Wisconsin team in a game they pretty much fully controlled all the way through. I think what makes it worse is that Georgia beat Auburn. If Auburn had won, at least Alabama's only loss would have been to a playoff team.

I agree with your second point, but do you remember that Mississippi State game? They looked pretty crappy in that one, and it doesn't help that was late in the season. Then the Bulldogs barely beat Ole Miss. It's weird to say I guess, but this was a down year for Alabama, somehow!

They still beat a Florida State team in what was called “One of the Biggest Opening Games of All Time”. People seem to forget about that game because of the way FSU turned out. But if you look at it, Alabama was in control against the #3 team in the country when Francois went out. Who should they have scheduled then? They scheduled the #3 team in the country.

[Alabama_Indy10]

The committee’s job is to get the 4 best teams into the playoff. I believe they have succeeded.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Never watching college football again. Ohio State was robbed.

Kinda like Penn State was last year?

[Alabama_Indy10]

UCF has named their new head coach.. Can't say that I've heard of this guy.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/central_florida_looks_to_sec_n.html

[Alabama_Indy10]

Bowl Schedule picks

Troy
Boise State

Florida Atlantic

SMU

Florida International

UAB

South Florida
San Diego State
Toledo

Fresno State

West Virginia
UCLA

Florida State
Boston College
Arizona
Texas

Virginia
Oklahoma State
TCU
Washington State

Texas A&M
NC State
Northwestern
USC

Louisville
Iowa State
Washington
Miami(FL)

Michigan
Auburn
Notre Dame
Georgia
Alabama

Alabama (I picked Alabama to defeat Georgia in the National Championship game, largely because Nick Saban is a better coach then Mark Richt).

When did he come back?

[Alabama_Indy10]

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2017/12/reports_alabama_dc_jeremy_prui_1.html

Alabama DC Jeremy Pruitt heading to Tennessee.