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Bacon King
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« on: January 08, 2008, 04:50:22 PM »

Afghanistan has a functioning Democracy.

If by functioning democracy you mean nearly complete anarchy outside of Kabul, you would be correct.

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See? Talking works. Not hardheaded, ignorant invasions.

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Except that the Bush doctrine, in regards to Iraq, was basically, "Go in, kick their asses and be done with it."

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Well, true, but the same applies to me, you and pretty much everyone.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 06:27:01 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2008, 06:28:46 PM by Bacon King »

Pope Leo, he's been in the Senate for 2 years.  The last year of which he's been campaigning for President and the first year he was learning the ropes.  How many foreign trips do you really think he's taken?

Two? What? He's been in there for going on four years, in which time he's sponsored a significant amount of succesful legislation. And before that, he was in the IL Senate for eight, in which time he successfully passed several hundred bills. Sounds like experience, no? More elected experience than Hillary, at any rate.

But onto the topic of foreign policy experience, he's gone on three official foreign trips abroad in his status as a United States senator, visiting fourteen countries; in addition, he's also visited his family in Kenya as a personal trip. And he's the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee on Europe, you know. That's significantly more foreign policy experience than either Reagan or Clinton upon their election to the presidency. What foriegn experience did they have?
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 07:05:47 PM »

The argument wasn't that world leaders would have a higher opinion of him, it was that his background would help him better deal with the realm of foreign relations. See Lewis's post.

Though I don't know what forumite said that, and really, it's irrelevant. What is relevant is that Obama's ''weak points'' don't matter, especially when you look at past presidents.
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