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Bacon King
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« on: November 09, 2015, 11:28:59 AM »

Yes, and some of the things that circulate as acceptable and normal in the social-liberal free-for-all, for instance all this transgender nonsense, are so offensive to people on what used to be the moderate right

The only "nonsense" is that bigots can somehow consider it 'offensive' to know that it's wrong for them to be openly bigoted and hateful
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2015, 03:23:11 PM »

Yes, and some of the things that circulate as acceptable and normal in the social-liberal free-for-all, for instance all this transgender nonsense, are so offensive to people on what used to be the moderate right

The only "nonsense" is that bigots can somehow consider it 'offensive' to know that it's wrong for them to be openly bigoted and hateful

Ah, exactly the attitude Runeghost/SillyAmerican are describing.

I'm sorry realisticidealist but I fail to see how this is a subjective issue in the slightest. SillyAmerican there literally dismissed an entire group of people, a group with whom I identify, as "offensive nonsense". The notion that Republicans are somehow becoming more extremist on a wide range of issues just because I chose to be open about my gender identity, (let alone the notion that members of the Democratic party are somehow inherently accepting and supportive) is patently ridiculous.

It's also a false comparison to equate "Democrats move to the left because Republicans are intolerant extremists" with "Republicans move to the right because Democrats are accepting of ideas I personally find repulsive" and then yearn for some "reasonable positions from the center" to the people "struggling in the center".

The entire argument is disingenuous because it's clear he's not in the center. It's not even about left vs right; he's on the objectively wrong side in an issue that's honestly just black and white - whether to accept people for who they are (which, after all, is what Christ taught us), or whether to be intolerant and offensive to groups of people you dislike and those who support them.

His plea for the middle ground is just Moderate Hero Fallacy and he's using it to act like his views are reasonable when they have no place in a civilized society. There are literally dozens of issues he could have used and made a reasonable point, maybe, but instead he brought up something that clearly demonstrates that sometimes the truth isn't actually in the middle.
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