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Question: Gay marriage in new states? / DOMA struck down?
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No / No
 
#2
No / Yes
 
#3
California only / No
 
#4
California only / Yes
 
#5
Nationwide / Yes
 
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Author Topic: Predict how SCOTUS rules on gay marriage  (Read 18443 times)
Bacon King
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« on: March 25, 2013, 11:09:13 PM »

I would rather win today then tomorrow.

What about the moral quality of the win? Winning through the vote of the people or of their elected representatives is infinitely better than winning through the dictate of a bunch of irresponsible, arrogant and omnipotent judges appointed for life.

I'm fairly certain that most African Americans would disagree with your assessment here.
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Bacon King
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Posts: 18,833
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.63, S: -9.49

« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2013, 02:59:16 AM »

I would rather win today then tomorrow.

What about the moral quality of the win? Winning through the vote of the people or of their elected representatives is infinitely better than winning through the dictate of a bunch of irresponsible, arrogant and omnipotent judges appointed for life.

I'm fairly certain that most African Americans would disagree with your assessment here.

I'm sorry, I am a staunch supporter of same sex marriage, but I don't consider it to be an issue nearly as important and righteous as the Civil Rights movement - not even close. Call me a DINO.

I entirely agree with your assessment of the unique importance of the struggle for racial equality, don't get me wrong. However, your statement seems to suggest that the Civil Rights Movement's use of the Federal Court system to achieve racial equality was somehow morally inferior to waiting around for Southern whites to stop being racist. How could the latter option possibly be "infinitely better" and of a greater "moral quality" than the former?

I could have mentioned other topics, of course, but the Civil Rights Movement seemed the most apt to highlight the shortcomings of the view you espoused. Judges are appointed for life precisely because they need the ability to make impartial (as impartial as humanly possible, anyway) decisions without being forced to heed public opinion that is contrary to the Constitution.
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