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« on: October 27, 2017, 07:40:21 PM »
« edited: February 16, 2018, 02:11:46 PM by TexasGurl »

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html?sr=twCNNp102717first-charges-mueller-investigation0831PMStory

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 07:45:30 PM »

Damn, beat to it.

Yeah, it is Manafort.

Hope he has his lawyers ready.

If all we get over this special prosecution is Manafort then it's a waste of time.

Some say Podesta and Flynn as well.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2017, 07:46:37 PM »

I hate to say this but I hope they get Kushner. Why? So he gets kicked out of this administration. He and Ivanka are holding Trump back.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2017, 07:48:24 PM »

Damn, beat to it.

Yeah, it is Manafort.

Hope he has his lawyers ready.

If all we get over this special prosecution is Manafort then it's a waste of time.

Some say Podesta and Flynn as well.
Oh FFS

Tony Podesta, not John. (I don't believe in Pizzagate).

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2017, 07:50:20 PM »


Flynn and Manafort most likely. Possible chance of Page and/or Podesta

What I hope: Kushner. What I wouldn't be surprised: Don Jr. (for being so stupid)
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2017, 07:56:34 PM »


Let me guess...

Flynn, Manafort, Page, Kushner, and maybe Donald Jr.

What crime did Don Jr or Page commit?
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2017, 08:02:05 PM »

Some idle thoughts: assuming this report is true, the number of people aware of this must have been very small.  I wonder who leaked it to CNN, and what their motivation was?  Could it be a deliberate leak on a Friday night to make people sweat and possibly do something stupid over the weekend?

I just read a report where it's someone even lower than Manafort.

So it may not even be Manafort.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2017, 08:11:03 PM »


Let me guess...

Flynn, Manafort, Page, Kushner, and maybe Donald Jr.

What crime did Don Jr or Page commit?

Colluded with the Russians. “No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by [this law].” By soliciting information from the Russians and accepting it, he broke the law. Even if no information was received, big if given Mueller probably knows more than we do, he still had the intent to collude. It's like saying that someone's not guilty of murder because the victim lived-there's a such thing as attempted murder.

Then can the Clintons get in trouble for funding the Fusion GPS?

According to your link, something more is required: at least "substantial assistance" to the foreign spender in providing this "thing of value."

This can be about goods and services, such as ai travel or food.

But not truthful information.

If the "truthful information" is a "thing of value" under campaign finance laws - this would create serious constitutional problems.

Trump Jr. wanted information on Clinton's health, which she was lying about and very secretive about. He thought the Russian lawyer had information on that. First amendment baby.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2017, 08:14:50 PM »

Things are getting REALLY bad for Trump. Btw, i'm 86% sure it's Manafort.

Nah it's fine.

Manafort will get something that he did years ago before the campaign and Flynn will get the Turkey stuff thrown at him.

Scooter Libby 2.0.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 08:15:25 PM »


Trump SHOULD fight back and I have no idea why the hell he is not.

He needs to start becoming an authoritarian.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 08:19:00 PM »

Rick Wilson is very happy on twitter after he received a phone call.

Rick Wilson is full of S all the time.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2017, 08:24:47 PM »


Trump SHOULD fight back and I have no idea why the hell he is not.

He needs to start becoming an authoritarian.


That's not his problem. What you're saying is an attack on democracy-not on the left, on democracy. So can you just admit we're right on that issue now that you've revealed your true colors?

He should hit the Clintons with the email scandals and their Russian connections as well. The Fusion GPS Dossier.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2017, 08:26:05 PM »


Trump SHOULD fight back and I have no idea why the hell he is not.

He needs to start becoming an authoritarian.

After that statement, I'm done with trying to engage in reasonable discourse with you.  Welcome to Ignore.

What they are doing to Trump is authoritarian.

They are trying to find ANY way to mess his administration up. God forbid if he wants to fight back right?
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2017, 08:26:54 PM »


What Mueller is doing is authoritarian like.

Searching for crimes. All for winning an election.

Trump will come out clean (RIP Manafort and Flynn) and I hope he shows no mercy.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2017, 08:29:21 PM »

Actions have consequences

Welcome to democracy, dude

Yeah he won an election in a year where the Queen was supposed to be coronated.

How dare he?

Manafort and Flynn are F'd most likely, so I hope Trump pardons them ASAP.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2017, 08:29:43 PM »

I'm leaning towards Manafort but there's a strong possibility it could be Flynn or Page.

Why Page?

Flynn could get the Turkey stuff thrown at him.
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2017, 08:31:47 PM »


What Mueller is doing is authoritarian like.

Searching for crimes. All for there being potential crimes to search for.


FTFY

So you just admitted they're just searching for crimes?

THat IS authoritarian like.

I hope Trump pardons Manafort and then unleashes special prosecutors against the Clintons and Obama.
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2017, 08:32:18 PM »

No, he and his subordinates have probably done several very illegal things. Since this isn't an absolute monarchy, they are going to be held accountable for them. The convulsions of insane people, such as yourself, won't save them.

If Trump would have lost would this investigation have ever happened?
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2017, 08:33:11 PM »

Hillary might get her vengeance yet. He shouldn't have taken her turn, hahahaha! Don't mess with the Queen!

Trump will be fine.

It will have nothing to do with collusion.

But it's still ****ed up.

Leftists clearly can't handle a loss very well.
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2017, 08:35:06 PM »

I know what your feeling @ahugecat. Best to step away from the computer and take a breather.

Trump will be fine.

When us Trumpers end up winning again I'll ask you to stop off the ledge lol.
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2017, 08:36:00 PM »

Seeing a lot of speculation on twitter that it might be flynn, and it has to do with some turkish cleric.

Former CIA dude James Woolsey went to Mueller last week to discuss flynn.

That's my second guess. Manafort or Flynn getting the Turkey stuff thrown at him.

Trump'll be fine.

I hope they get Kushner though lol (0.01% chance).
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2017, 08:37:30 PM »

"Searching for crimes"

What is an investigation?

A crime occurs, and you investigate to find evidence of that crime.

Imagine if a cop just went to your house right now, and said "Let me dig through your entire house and computer to find (ILLEGAL something)."

What would you say?

Trump committed no crime so they're searching through his financial records and all that to find one.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2017, 08:38:47 PM »

Everytime I hear "Trump will be fine." from you, I imagine a very nervous and sweaty person, shakingly trying to be optimistic.

Everytime I hear "Trump is doomed!" from you, I look at your state and remember how people told me Trump would never win it and that he's doomed and has no chance to 270.

Then I remember I'm always right while the anti-Trumpers are always wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2017, 08:45:23 PM »

I dont know what @ahugecat is posting since I have them on ignore, but its kind of ruining the thread.

It's a good thing that we have moderators capable of ensuring that discussion is kept civil and topical

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I don't have him on ignore. I find his defenses amusing at-best.

Why? When I end up always being right?
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2017, 08:56:22 PM »

Hillary might get her vengeance yet. He shouldn't have taken her turn, hahahaha! Don't mess with the Queen!

Trump will be fine.

It will have nothing to do with collusion.

But it's still ****ed up.

Leftists clearly can't handle a loss very well.

Trumpists can't handle a win well, because they have stayed angry even after winning.

Lol is this a joke post?
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