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Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2017, 03:00:29 PM »


Vice President Al Gore (D-Tenn.) / Senator Bob Graham (D-Fla.) - 466 votes, 53.4%
Governor George W. Bush (R-Texas) / Fmr. Sec. Dick Cheney (R-Wyo.) - 72, 42.1%


Democrats (Maj Ldr Tom Daschle) - 54 (+8)
Republicans (Min Ldr Trent Lott) - 46 (–8.)

Changes in Senate elections from RL
Montana. Brian Schweitzer defeats Sen. Conrad Burns (inc.)
Nevada. Edward M. Bernstein defeats Fmr. Rep. John Ensign
Pennsylvania. Rep. Ron Klink defeats Sen. Rick Santorum (inc.)
Virginia. Sen. Chuck Robb (inc.) defeats Fmr. Gov. George Allen
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2017, 06:34:29 PM »
« Edited: October 29, 2017, 06:38:06 PM by razze »

Part 2 of my little unrealistic Dem hack dream TL. Let's just say…Al Gore managed the Iraq War really well so everyone was happy. Or something. Don't think about it too hard.

United States Senate elections, 2002

Democratic Party (Maj Ldr Tom Daschle) - 61 (+7)
Republican Party (Min Ldr Trent Lott) - 39 (–7)

Changes from RL
Colorado. Fmr. U.S. Attorney Tom Strickland defeats Sen. Wayne Allard (inc.)
Georgia. Sen. Max Cleland (inc.) defeats Rep. Saxby Chambliss
Minnesota. Fmr. Amb. Walter Mondale defeats Mayor Norm Coleman
Missouri. Sen. Jean Carnahan (inc.) defeats Fmr. Rep. Jim Talent
New Hampshire. Gov. Jeanne Shaheen defeats Rep. John E. Sununu
North Carolina. Fmr. WH Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles defeats Fmr. Sec. Elizabeth Dole
South Carolina. Fmr. Judge Alex Sanders defeats Rep. Lindsey Graham
Tennessee. Rep. Bob Clement defeats Fmr. Sec. Lamar Alexander
Texas. Fmr. Mayor Ron Kirk defeats Sen. John Cornyn (inc.)


(From here on, I decided to make it easier on myself by just subtracting 6 points from every Republican and adding those to the Dems. Simpler than just making it up as I go)

United States gubernatorial elections, 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003
Changes from RL
Alabama. Gov. Don Siegelman (inc.) defeats Rep. Bob Riley
Arkansas. State Treasurer Jimmie Lou Fisher defeats Gov. Mike Huckabee (inc.)
Georgia. Gov. Roy Barnes (inc.) defeats Fmr. State Sen. Sonny Perdue
Hawaii. Lt. Gov. Mazie Hirono defeats Fmr. Mayor Linda Lingle
Kentucky. State AG Ben Chandler defeats Rep. Ernie Fletcher
Maryland. Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend defeats Rep. Bob Ehrlich
Massachusetts. State Treasurer Shannon O'Brian defeats Mitt Romney
Minnesota. State Sen. Roger Moe defeats State Rep. Tim Pawlenty
Mississippi. Gov. Ronnie Musgrove (inc.) defeats Fmr. RNC Chair Haley Barbour
Rhode Island. State Sen. Myrth York defeats Don Carcieri
South Carolina. Gov. Jim Hodges (inc.) defeats Fmr. Rep. Mark Sanford
Vermont. Lt. Gov. Doug Racine defeats State Treasurer Jim Douglas


United States presidential election, 2004

President Al Gore // Vice President Bob Graham (D) - 365 votes, 54.3%
Senator John McCain // Governor Jeb Bush (R) - 173 votes, 44.7%

United States Senate elections, 2004

Democratic Party - 66 (+5)
Republican Party - 34 (–5)
Changes from RL
Alaska. Fmr. Gov. Tony Knowles defeats Sen. Lisa Murkowski (inc.)
Florida. Fmr. Education Commissioner Betty Castor defeats Fmr. Sec. Mel Martínez
Kentucky. State Sen. Daniel Mongiardo defeats Sen. Jim Bunning (inc.)
North Carolina. State Rep. Dan Blue defeats Rep. Richard Burr
Oklahoma. Rep. Brad Carson defeats Fmr. Rep. Tom Coburn
Pennsylvania. Rep. Joe Hoeffel defeats Sen. Arlen Specter (inc.)
South Carolina. Superintendent of Education Inez Tenenbaum defeats Rep. Jim DeMint
South Dakota. Sen. Tom Daschle (inc.) defeats Fmr. Rep. John Thune
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2017, 08:02:07 PM »


Former Secretary Hillary Clinton // Senator Tim Kaine - 405 votes, 61.73%
Donald Trump // Dr. Ben Carson - 34 votes, 31.62%

2016 with a nationwide margin = RL California's margin. aka how the election should have gone Interestingly enough, I discovered that in MI and WI Hillary outperformed her own percentage in MN, leading to the former 2 having a 60%+ margin and MN only being 50%+ (since the addition gave her 59.99% in MN)
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Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,090
Cuba


Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2017, 11:45:11 PM »


Vice Pres. Hubert H. Humphrey / Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D) - 267 votes, 45%
Fmr. Vice Pres. Richard M. Nixon / Gov. Spiro T. Agnew (R) - 226 votes, 42.8%
Fmr. Gov. George C. Wallace / Gen. Curtis LeMay (AI) - 12.2%

Humphrey campaigns as a proud liberal & also Nixon's interference in the peace talks becomes known publicly and the election is thrown into chaos until moderate Republicans team up with Democrats to elect Humphrey in the House
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2017, 04:55:42 PM »

Republican presidential primaries, 2008

Senator Fred Thompson (Tenn.) - 1201 delegates, 32.5%
Fmr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani (N.Y.) - 816 delegates, 32%
Senator John McCain (Ariz.) - 353 delegates, 21.6%
Fmr. Governor Jeb Bush (Fla.) - 112 delegates, 13.8%
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2017, 03:03:10 PM »
« Edited: November 12, 2017, 11:39:18 AM by razze »

President, 2016

Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) / Sen. Sherrod Brown (Ohio) - 347 votes, 53.9%
Donald Trump (N.Y.) / Gov. Mike Pence (Ind.) - 191 votes, 43.0%

Senate, 2016

Democrats - 55 (+9)
Republicans - 45 (–9)
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2017, 11:38:43 AM »

Oops! Haha
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Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2017, 09:14:39 PM »


2024



Danica Roem (VA-GOV, elected 2021)/Beto O'Rourke (TX-GOV, elected 2022) 54.5% 430ish EV
Tom Cotton (AR-SEN)/Kevin Cramer (ND-AL) 38.4% 98ish EV
Evan McMullin (UT-SEN, elected 2022)/Ben Sasse (NE-SEN) 8.8% 10ish EV

House: 293D/142R (D+15)
Senate: 67D/33R (D+7, AK, MT, MS, NC, GA, KS flip, 2nd UT seat flips to Independent caucusing with Dems)
The BRIGHTEST timeline of all.
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Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,090
Cuba


Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2017, 09:01:57 PM »

2008

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill) / Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del) - 401 votes, 56.4%
Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-Ark) / Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska) - 137 votes, 40.9%

2012

Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass) / Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) - 377 votes, 54.1%
Pres. Barack Obama (D-Ill) / Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 161 votes, 44.7%

2016

Gordon Douglas Jones (D-Ala) / Gov. Gwen Graham (D-Fla) - 454 votes, 50.1%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Benjamin Carson (R-Md) - 58 votes, 29.1%
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt) / Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz) - 26 votes, 21.0%
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
Cuba


Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2017, 08:43:47 PM »

1988

Governor Michael Dukakis (D-Massachusetts) / Jesse Jackson (D-South Carolina) - 269, 49.4%
Vice President George Bush (R-Texas) / Governor Kay Orr (R-Nebraska) - 269, 49.3%

I know Orr winning in the Senate is unrealistic, but they're not called Random Maps for no reason
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
Cuba


Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2017, 04:42:09 AM »

U.S. Senate elections, 2030

Democrats (Maj. Leader Michael Bennet) - 60 (–6)
Republicans (Min. Leader John Thune) - 30 (+7)
Independent (caucus with Democrats) - 2 (=)
Independent (caucus with Republicans) - 0 (–1)
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2017, 04:40:03 PM »

2022
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2017, 03:27:02 PM »
« Edited: November 24, 2017, 03:39:07 PM by razze »

2012


Senator Mitch Daniels - 623 delegates, 22.6% (nominee)
Fmr. Governor Mike Huckabee - 655 delegates, 26.1% (defeated at convention)
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney - 572 delegates, 23.1% (withdrew during convention, endorsed Daniels)
Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich - 269 delegates, 10.4% (withdrew, endorsed Daniels)
Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum - 111 delegates, 9.9% (withdrew, endorsed Huckabee)
Governor Rick Perry - 48 delegates, 4.7% (withdrew)
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann - 8 delegates, 3.1% (withdrew, endorsed Huckabee)
Fmr. Ambassador John Huntsman - 0 delegates, .1% (withdrew, endorsed Romney)


President Al Gore (D-Tenn) / VP Michael Coleman (D-Ohio) - 297 votes, 50.2%
Senator Mitch Daniels (R-Ind) / Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 241 votes, 47.2%
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2017, 01:48:40 AM »


Al Gore (D) - 362 votes, 53.2%
John S. McCain (R) - 176 votes, 45.8%


Al Gore (D, inc.) - 301 votes, 50.0%
Jeb Bush (R) - 237 votes, 48.9%


Mike Huckabee (R) - 282 votes, 49.4%
John Kerry (D) - 256 votes, 47.6%


Janet Napolitano (D) - 383 votes, 54.6%
Mike Huckabee (R, inc.) - 155 votes, 44.5%


Janet Napolitano (D, inc.) - 431 votes, 44.5%
Jon Huntsman (R) - 70 votes, 35.4%
Mike Huckabee (C) - 37 vote, 20.7%
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2017, 07:54:21 PM »

It's oddly satisfying to see a blue-Democrat red-Republican map on this forum for once
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2017, 05:46:57 PM »

Alternate 1916

President Wilson - 266 votes, 48.3%
Justice Hughes - 265 votes, 47.7%

(Actual result)

Wilson - 277 votes, 49.2%
Hughes - 254 votes, 46.1%
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2017, 07:03:23 PM »

2052

Sen. Samuel Smith (D-Missouri) // Fmr. Sec. Danica Roem (D-Virginia) - ~400 votes, 52.0%
Pres. Bailey Vigil (R-Pennsylvania) // Vice Pres. Francis Suarez (R-Florida) - ~350 votes, 46.6%
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2017, 02:17:51 AM »

Democratic nomination, 2032

Fmr. Sen. Beto O'Rourke, Texas
Sen. Crisanta Duran, Colorado
Gov. Nan Whaley, Ohio
Sen. Kaniela Ing, Hawaii
Sen. Andrew Gillum, Florida
Fmr. Gov. Justin Fairfax, Virginia
Gov. Pete Buttigieg, Indiana


Republican nomination, 2032

Sen. Joni Ernst, Iowa
Sen. Raúl Labrador, Idaho
Sen. Phil Christofanelli, Missouri
Sen. Francis X. Suárez, Florida
Fmr. Gov. Cam Ward, Alabama
Fmr. Vice Pres. Nikki Haley, South Carolina


General election, 2032

Fmr. Sen. Beto O'Rourke (Texas) / Gov. Pete Buttigieg (Indiana) - 426 votes, 52.8% (3.8%)
Sen. Joni Ernst (Iowa) / Sen. Raúl Labrador (Idaho) - 117 votes, 45.4% (2.8%)
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2017, 01:29:05 PM »

Senate, 2032

Democrats (Maj Ldr Michael Bennet) - 59 seats (–1)
Republicans (Min Ldr John Thune) - 30 seats (no change)
Independents who caucus with Democrats - 2 seats (no change)
Independents who caucus with Republicans - 1 (+1)

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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2017, 04:03:44 PM »

That 1988 map is so interesting. Also, I love the "if my exes ran" thing!
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2017, 01:50:49 AM »

Kamala Harris wins the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination, beating Sherrod Brown in a bitter ethnic/racial battle.
I'm imagining this as Harris and Brown literally dueling with medieval weapons to the death for the nomination
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2017, 08:25:13 PM »

Senate, 2022

Democratic caucus (Maj Ldr Chuck Schumer-N.Y.) — 72 seats (+13)
Republican conference (Ldr John Barrasso-Wyo.) — 18 seats (–13)
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2017, 10:01:24 PM »

by 2019 dems have 51 seats (plus 2 indy's), they add 6 throughout 2019-2021, losing the presidential election while winning the popular vote once again. economic crisis in 2021 á la TD's BTM, and pin pan pun Dems have an übermajority after the 2022 midterms. it's a wank TL
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Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2017, 06:36:11 PM »


Gov. Gary Holcomb (Populist-WV)/Rep. James Calderón (P-CO) – 285, 52.2%
Sen. Suzanne Everett (R-OK)/General Curtis Williams (R-VA) – 253, 43.4%
State Rep. Bobby Mancini (Center-NY)/Donald Rice (C-PA) – 0, 3.6%
Are they left-wing, right-wing, or centrist populists?
Economically left, socially center, and pro-gun. The Republicans are similar to En Marche in France and the Liberal Democrats in the UK. In this scenario some event happened and the pro-business Democrats merged with the Republicans while the New Deal Republicans merged with the Democrats to form the Populist Party. Goldwater and Reagan never happened. The Populists never really became a "coastal" party while the Republicans remained popular in the larger states. Both are fairly big-tent, though, and the socially conservative but fiscally left Southern Democrats (Populist) and Rockefeller Republicans still exist and are major forces.
This is a really creative scenario! I wonder how all our modern politicians would identify in such a world, or how a right-wing nationalist/populist Trump-like movement would perform.
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,090
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -4.96


« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2017, 01:52:12 PM »
« Edited: December 29, 2017, 01:55:39 PM by razze »

1968

President Lyndon B. Johnson, D-Texas – 208 votes, 43.8%
Governor George Romney, R-Michigan – 264 votes, 42.5%
Fmr. Governor George Wallace, AI-Alabama – 66 votes, 13.7%

2,000 votes in Missouri (45.2%-45.0%) keep Romney from an electoral victory. House elects Johnson.
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