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junior chįmp
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« on: November 17, 2019, 09:59:21 PM »

Blah blah blah blah

The Moderate Middle Is A Myth

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Ideology Isn't About Issues

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Democrats Can Abandon the Center — Because the Center Doesn’t Exist
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junior chįmp
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 10:51:12 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2019, 10:56:19 PM by Mondale »

How crazy has the world gotten when Barack Obama, who was on the far left wing of the Democratic Party when he ran in 2008, is somehow the voice of reason in his party?

He wasn't. Not even close. He never occupied the space of Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich...or even John Edwards.

And actual record, even Hillary was further left.

No....Obama was the most leftist Democrat in history. The Conservative media complex said it repeatedly so therefore it must be true. And of course they said it not to make money and sell more books/grift rubes but because it was true. Actually, it was confirmed by a study from the Rush Limbaugh Institute for a drug free America that Obama was more leftist than Karl Marx
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junior chįmp
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2019, 11:11:25 PM »


Thanks for the link. One point stuck out to me from the last article;
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The strength of the populists’ case lies in a simple fact: Democrats have everything to gain by polarizing the electorate around issues of economics. In Drutman’s analysis, 73.5 percent of 2016 voters espoused broadly liberal views on economic policy. If people voted solely on the basis of their intuitions about how government should intervene in the economy (when interrogated about such matters by pollsters), Democrats would dominate all levels of government.

The pundits after all said Clinton lost due to lacking a strong 'economic message', so even they grasp this point slightly, but then arguing Warren and Bernie are 'too far to the left' and other nonsense on economics.

Americans have always been to the left policy wise. The problem is they dont vote like it because identity determines partisanship and your partisanship determines your facts/reality. A hick in Kentucky might thing single payer is a good idea but he's still not gonna vote Dem because he's a hick from Kentucky.
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junior chįmp
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2019, 03:50:49 PM »


Yeah, the best way to minimize that effect is campaigning hard on economics and not so much on Trump's scandals (though of course still attack Trump on ethics but Hilary went too far and ironically focused a historically low amount on policy).

Honestly, I dont think much can be done about it. The voting public just isn't ideologically sophisticated enough to understand economic theroy and the effects of scandals fade quickly since the public doesnt pay attention.
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