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junior chįmp
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« on: March 05, 2018, 09:49:33 PM »

Realignments are not based on geography. Realignments are caused by strong leadership responses to crises at a time when one generation is ascending and the one in power is on its way out. There are many political scientists who theorize that America has only had 2 REAL realignments: 1860 and 1932. The rest were half assed realignments.

Without a crisis and a strong leader, you don't get a full realignment. You get a weak one. That's why it's so important that centrist trash like Biden, Booker, Harris, Cuomo, et all, doesn't get elected in 2020. These centre left technocratic hacks are failing everywhere in the world: their failing in Germany, Italy, UK, etc...

Again, realignments don't have to happen. If the wrong person gets elected or the crises is overwhelming enough then it just skips a generation
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junior chįmp
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 10:11:15 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2018, 10:23:34 PM by Mondale »

Realignments are not based on geography. Realignments are caused by strong leadership responses to crises at a time when one generation is ascending and the one in power is on its way out. There are many political scientists who theorize that America has only had 2 REAL realignments: 1860 and 1932. The rest were half assed realignments.

Without a crisis and a strong leader, you don't get a full realignment. You get a weak one. That's why it's so important that centrist trash like Biden, Booker, Harris, Cuomo, et all, doesn't get elected in 2020. These centre left technocratic hacks are failing everywhere in the world: their failing in Germany, Italy, UK, etc...

Again, realignments don't have to happen. If the wrong person gets elected or the crises is overwhelming enough then it just skips a generation

Yeah, exactly. The Reagan realignment did have geography play a large part, but you can't necessarily extrapolate that to other realignments.

What region was most important in the FDR realignment?

No one region really, except for maybe the South. While FDR got a higher % of the vote in the South than any other Democrat, immediately after his presidency was the beginning of the end of Southern Democratic dominance (State's Rights Dixiecrats in 1948). Plus, the Democratic Party had been dominating the South long before FDR. So...no, not really.

Re-alignments are about bringing together several disparate groups into one large, common coalition that generally has the upper hand in the electorate. For the Reagan coalition, this was bringing together fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and neoconservatives, doing a great deal to associate social conservatism with fiscal conservatism and thus bringing the Sunbelt into the Republican column. For the New Deal coalition, this was bringing together urban liberals, Catholics, African-Americans, and Southerners; all groups that shared the common trait of economic hardship.

This is very true. For this fundamental reason, I can't stand centrist hacks in the Democratic Party. They just don't get it. FDR won partly because he turned out people who don't turn out and created a coalition around them.

Centrist hacks are still beating the dead horse of trying to win people and groups who just aren't going to vote for them anyway. It's so important that who gets nominated in 2020 is a strong leader who uses strong language and takes bold action. This is how you "imprint" your leadership on whole generations so they never leave the party.

Can you honestly imagine a clown like Biden or Booker using strong language and having strong leadership? They'll get elected, tell their grassroots supporters: "it's time to bring our Republican friends to the table." People will feel they got scammed, check out of voting, and the GOP will roll them like chumps. This has literally been happening since Clinton won in 1992.
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