Why don't Democrats just say it out loud: Repeal the Second Amendment? (user search)
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AtorBoltox
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« on: March 24, 2018, 07:20:56 PM »

How does every other society similar to the United States manage to function without mass gun ownership? According to conservatives they all should be overrun by home invasions. In the real world though the USA has a far higher crime rate than other western societies
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AtorBoltox
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2018, 08:08:24 PM »
« Edited: March 24, 2018, 08:11:50 PM by AtorBoltox »

How does every other society similar to the United States manage to function without mass gun ownership?
America functions just fine, what an odd comment.
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no we don't.  Our "crime" rates don't stand out. (other than being slightly lower than your average "good" country)  Murder, sure, but not generic crime.  cite
The US has half the crime per capita that Germany, Canada, Netherlands, Denmark and Belgium has.  The UK, New Zealand and Sweden are worse still.
That site you just linked reckons South Africa has a lower crime rate than Norway and Sweden. Try again. Also, I love how you just gloss over the fact that the murder rate is higher as if it's of little interest
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AtorBoltox
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2018, 08:25:16 PM »

you said crime, not murder.  If you have a better cite, I'd be happy to look at it.  You don't really come across the as the kind of guy that would do that though.  You know what's right, no one should question you.
Maybe you could just employ some critical thinking and realise statistics which suggest that South Africa has a lower crime rate than Sweden are likely to be flawed in some way?
Anyway, address the original point- why do societies with less guns have less murders if guns keep people safe?
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AtorBoltox
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2018, 11:47:46 PM »

While I support significant gun control, I don't think campaigning on repealing the Second Amendment would be a good electoral strategy, and highly doubt repealing 2A would ever become close to being voted on.

If hypothetically there was a chance to repeal 2A, my main concern would be the precedent it would set on potentially weakening the other amendments in the Bill of Rights.
Already happened. The 4th amendment has been all but eroded by courts
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