2020 Protests megathread

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https://twitter.com/niall_gooch/status/1267011773082808320?s=20

I'm also interested in when my social media feeds will start to look more like this and feature less comfortable preening from well-fed liberals about how "riots are the language of the oppressed." Bullsh**t: They are the language of oppressors, both in and out of uniform.

e: Even worse, I'm seeing this language from people who were particularly fervent about masks and social distancing up until several days ago. Not sure how they're making those thoughts cohere when even under lockdown we were seeing hundreds of deaths every day.

Absolutely this.  The amount of people I know that I've seen try to justify rioting on my own feed from the safety of their Ivory Towers is astonishing, especially when these people were usually also quick to shame anyone who didn't properly follow social distancing guidelines like a week ago.

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Oh yes. The fabled 'ivory towers' of 20 something urban progressives living in cramped high rent apartments.

Uhh no, lmao. I'm talking about white progressives that I personally know who reside in the suburbs from well off families who would switch gears if the rioting ever managed to make it to their nice secluded neighborhoods.

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https://twitter.com/FOXNashville/status/1267570523632013312?s=19

https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1267282082532741121?s=19

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267306821947097088?s=19

Obviously those police officers are outliers, because many on this site claim that most/all cops are bad and evil 🤷‍♂️

These gestures are a step in the right direction, but why aren't we seeing officers openly commit to defunding and demilitarizing their departments? If they really want to be apart of solving this systemic problem, they wouldn't just be kneeling and saying a nice speech while minutes later deploy teargas and rubber bullets to these people (which is getting more clear that they've been using on violent and peaceful demonstrations).

>I want police to be more professional, better trained, and better able to screen out undesirable recruits
>Why haven't police committed to defunding themselves!?

Do people actually believe this tf

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People keep beating around the bush. Want the broader solution to this crisis in twenty words or less?

Police have to be made to fear maintaining the status quo more than they fear change. Until or unless that happens, cops are going to behave as they've been behaving, and protests are going to continue to occur as they have. When/if cops are just as fearful (or more) of losing their jobs, pensions and families in the middle of the night due to their homes getting firebombed as they are fearful of somebody looking at them funny in the street while they are armed with surplus DOD gear, change will happen. Until then, social, political and cultural gravity will continue to apply here and the status quo will reign.

 

I mean this might be the answer if your ultimate goal is open conflict with the government, and if so good luck with that sh*t lmao.

I guarantee that reprisals against police (as well as the disgusting implication here that random police officers families are fair targets for firebombing as political pressure???) will not garner you any sympathy and simply if anything will make the police more likely to fly off the handle in intense situations. Be careful with what you wish for.

[Ye We Can]

People keep beating around the bush. Want the broader solution to this crisis in twenty words or less?

Police have to be made to fear maintaining the status quo more than they fear change. Until or unless that happens, cops are going to behave as they've been behaving, and protests are going to continue to occur as they have. When/if cops are just as fearful (or more) of losing their jobs, pensions and families in the middle of the night due to their homes getting firebombed as they are fearful of somebody looking at them funny in the street while they are armed with surplus DOD gear, change will happen. Until then, social, political and cultural gravity will continue to apply here and the status quo will reign.

 

I mean this might be the answer if your ultimate goal is open conflict with the government, and if so good luck with that sh*t lmao.

I guarantee that reprisals against police (as well as the disgusting implication here that random police officers families are fair targets for firebombing as political pressure???) will not garner you any sympathy and simply if anything will make the police more likely to fly off the handle in intense situations. Be careful with what you wish for.

And I thought the people comparing the looting to the Boston Tea Party were mouth breathers.  You're advocating for terrorism as much as Trump was when he talked about killing terrorists families. Even if you absolutely believe they're all terrible people you're getting into Robespierre territory.

You wanna go full weather underground, whatever. But you'll deserve everything you'll get in the end.

[Ye We Can]

People keep beating around the bush. Want the broader solution to this crisis in twenty words or less?

Police have to be made to fear maintaining the status quo more than they fear change. Until or unless that happens, cops are going to behave as they've been behaving, and protests are going to continue to occur as they have. When/if cops are just as fearful (or more) of losing their jobs, pensions and families in the middle of the night due to their homes getting firebombed as they are fearful of somebody looking at them funny in the street while they are armed with surplus DOD gear, change will happen. Until then, social, political and cultural gravity will continue to apply here and the status quo will reign.

 

I mean this might be the answer if your ultimate goal is open conflict with the government, and if so good luck with that sh*t lmao.

I guarantee that reprisals against police (as well as the disgusting implication here that random police officers families are fair targets for firebombing as political pressure???) will not garner you any sympathy and simply if anything will make the police more likely to fly off the handle in intense situations. Be careful with what you wish for.

Holy f****** s***. This is unreal.

Worrying about losing their jobs and even their pensions because they have to deal with real oversight boards with teeth, sure. That's an obvious and natural solution. Trying to cosplay Che Guevara and extol the firebombing of police officers homes and their families is, literally, monsterous.

I would like to think that you're simply joking as you typed that, but your bile is all too real.

That's disgusting Griffin. And let's not forget that every a****** trying to justify violence, from the far left to the far-right, inevitably uses, or rather misuses that Thomas Jefferson quote as piss poor justification. I can't tell you how disappointing it is to see and usually well sooken poster join their ranks.

My words are simple and accurate. I can't help it that spaces like these are filled with people who are either privileged, want to maintain the status quo but insist on virtue-signaling for "reform" in the most minute sense to get a pat on the back, or advocate for one-way authoritarianism that benefits the right.

If you or anybody else thinks that cops are going to stop abusing the public because people protest peacefully or ask nicely, then you're absolutely deluded. All anybody has to do is look at the plethora of videos from the last week of them gassing, beating, arresting and killing peaceful protesters, journalists and anybody else who crosses their vision when they go red-eyed.

It's either them being forced to heel, or us. If you disagree, or think there is some magic third way (but I repeat myself), you endorse what is happening now because what is happening now is the only outcome of such. Peacefully whining isn't going to change anything. Voting isn't either (practically every single one of these cities where the cops are raging are Democratic-controlled, and have been for ages). If putting the fear of god into the security apparatus isn't a viable strategy, then pray tell why you and so many others enabled a party for so long that insists the 2nd Amendment exists for that very reason?

Yes FBI, this post right here

That's not the point and you know it.  I'm taking issue with your assertion that a police officer's FAMILY is a legitimate target for violence, even if I believed that the police were evil. That's utterly disgusting.

Even worse in a way that you probably don't even believe in it to actually do it yourself. Just another edgy keyboard warrior on the internet.

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"Lib DEM" Mayor of Portland Oregon...

Another Night of Ted Wheeler over-reaction show in Portland Oregon...

Cops still appear to be using Tear Gas and other chemical agents against protesters in the City, not to mention various other crowd control items.....

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/06/portland-protests-against-police-brutality-continue-friday-live-updates.html


Getting to a point where anyone supports Wheeler and PDX activity quite frankly need to be removed from office immediately....

Tear Gas & Rubber Bullets are not "Non-Lethal" crowd control techniques, which our British Colonial Masters attempted to pioneer in Northern Ireland around 1970....

I don't give an eff about whatever police departments use such tactics regardless of DEM nor PUB cities, but any political figure that support such actions should be voted out of office immediately, cause quite frankly don't need that crap rolling down my neighborhood, especially from "Democratic" political leaders supporting the crooked cops in the hood at a time of righteous rage.

Mayor Ted Wheeler has announced that the Portland Police Department will end their use of controversial modern riot control techniques and rollback to a simpler time when only batons and firearms were used by police to control riots.