Trump approval ratings thread 1.2

[Tintrlvr]

Given how the army is disproportionately white

Is it?

Isn't it? At least this poll certainly was, but maybe it isn't representative.

I think unrepresentative, although maybe it's an issue of having a large enough sample-size at the officer level, which certainly is disproportionately white. The Army is disproportionately minority. Not wildly so, but enough to be noticeable.

http://download.militaryonesource.mil/12038/MOS/Reports/2015-Demographics-Report.pdf (PDF)

See page 57/223. Doesn't break it down by race, but the Army is 33% "racial minorities" (which does not include Hispanic/Latino persons), less than the Navy (39%) but more than the Air Force (28%) or the Marine Corps (20%) and more than the nation as a whole (26%). Generally speaking, blacks are substantially overrepresented in the Army and the Navy in particular, although Hispanics and Asians (and other groups that are heavily recent immigrants) are somewhat underrepresented.

[Tintrlvr]

Why is he going down btw?

I think it is basically because he got a short-term boost from Hurricanes Harvey and Irma that has now worn off completely, and we're picking up where approvals left off before the hurricanes in August as fatigue continues to set in.

There are a wide variety of unpopular things right now that don't help: tax "reform" is very unpopular and eats in particular at his base of low-income whites, there is continued dissatisfaction on healthcare even though the bill itself is dead, there is lingering bad news about the response to Hurricane Maria (compounded by the unraveling Whitefish Energy scandal that may consume his Interior Secretary), there is general unhappiness with his handling of the NFL/anthem protests, Mueller has announced his first indictments, which brings the Russia scandal back into the news, etc.

[Tintrlvr]

I approve of Trump more than ever in light of today's charges. We must work with Putin and his glorious Christian Tsardom to defend Christendom. Dig in. Fight back. God is on our side.

Is this a joke post?  I honestly can’t tell.  You can’t be both Christian and pro-Putin.

Of course it's a joke.  ETA: But it reminds me of something Daniel90whatever would say.

From Santander it might not be. But no-true-Christian-ing is no more helpful than no-true-Scotsman-ing in any case.

[Tintrlvr]

Why is he going down btw?

I think it is basically because he got a short-term boost from Hurricanes Harvey and Irma that has now worn off completely, and we're basically picking up where approvals left off before the hurricanes in August as fatigue continues to set in.

There are a wide variety of unpopular things right now that don't help: tax "reform" is very unpopular and eats in particular at his base of low-income whites, there is continued dissatisfaction on healthcare even though the bill itself is dead, there is lingering bad news about the response to Hurricane Maria (compounded by the unraveling Whitefish Energy scandal that may consume his Interior Secretary), there is general unhappiness with his handling of the NFL/anthem protests, Mueller has announced his first indictments, which brings the Russia scandal back into the news, etc.

It's too soon for the indictments to have any effect.  But his public feud with the Gold Star widow, along with two prominent Republican senators essentially calling Trump dangerously unfit for office, have probably contributed to the recent decline in approval.

The fact that indictments were coming was announced on Friday.

[Tintrlvr]

The Democratic party may realize too late that Kamala Harris is not the best candidate to win working class whites in the midwest.

The guy who considers everybody to the right of Lenin a fascist is suddenly concerned about a candidate's appeal to Joe Sixpack from Redneckville, Missouri.

This. I don't get why leftists and Bernie bros are so concerned about winning working class white Trump voters when they're the ones okay with racism and a capitalist country... yet all these leftists never say sh**t about appealing to working class people of color and working class democrats who probably want to see a more socialized society.

Well, Bernie in 2016 did best with whites and white states (NH, MI, WI, OR), while Hillary crushed among blacks, the southern states basically giving her an insurmountable delegate lead.

I suppose the desire to reach out to WCW comes from a combination of the fact that they voted for the more socialist candidate in the primary, and the fact that Trump barely skimmed by with PA, MI and WI, and the idea that appealing to just a bit more would be the recipe for victory in those areas. Of course, you could also argue that increased minority turnout would do the same trick.

If Bernie bros really believe that the WWC who voted for Sanders in West Virginia, Oklahoma and Kentucky did it because they are socialism-curious, then they are even bigger suckers than I ever thought.

Friendly reminder to the jferns of the world that Hillary Clinton got 67% of the vote against Barack Obama in West Virginia in 2008. And John Edwards, who had dropped out of the race *three months prior*, managed over 7% of the vote.

[Tintrlvr]

F**k. http://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/224801/changes-presidential-job-approval-tracking-reporting.aspx?g_source=link_newsv9&g_campaign=item_203207&g_medium=copy

Mail-in surveys? What could possibly go wrong?

[Tintrlvr]

When did LimoLiberal become logical?

Long-game trolling. Seem reasonable for a while, then go back to trolling later, once you've built up some legitimacy.

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Millennials

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http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-millennials-793548?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=yahoo_news&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news

At first I thought this wasn't too bad, just slightly worse than his national numbers. But then I opened the article and saw 19% approval! I guess it's not surprising that younger voters are somewhat less engaged and thus have more undecideds. That 24-62 figure for the Republican Party is pretty calamitous for the party's long-term prospects, too.

[Tintrlvr]

Its funny how Trumps approval rating in Alaska, which is supposed to be the next big swing state is the same in Arkansas a state that is supposed to be completely safe republican.

Its Especially funny, considering Trump won Alaska by a margin of 15 Points but won Arkansas by a margin of 27 points.

Anyone have any theories why that’s the case? The two states are nothing alike

Small sample size? Maybe Trump is super popular with Native Americans for some reason?

That, or maybe ANWR. Alternatively perhaps he had farther to fall in AR

It's just noise. Don't think about it too hard. Alaska is especially difficult to poll, too, so a national pollster is not going to do very well there.