French Jews Planning Mass Exodus in Wake of Terrorist Attacks

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Well, this is, eh...

Just wanted to agree with Al, really, that it's absurd to talk of a European race or people because essentially nothing unites Europe. And I think it's pretty controversial to talk about Asian or African races too. And for good reason.

It reminds me of the story about the Croatic and the two Serbic veterans who meet each others on Java. Did they start fighting? No they walked into a bar, got drunk, while talking about the old land and sang together.

Europeans may not have a lot in common, when we sit at home, but when we compare us with non-Europeans when suddenly we have a lot in common, from cultural clues to a shared history. 

Between you and the Spaniards? Or you and the Greeks? Possibly. But there is more in common between the Spaniards and the Moroccans and the Greeks and the Turks.

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Well of course, but it's you who bring up that people who have lived in Europe for centuries are not native Europeans.

You seem to have problem with my English. So, let me be even blunter. I find the concept of "native Europeans" dangerously offensive in its implications. Anybody, who classifies himself as such I wholeheartedly despise.

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but keep you ideology of blood purity away from me.

The only persone here to talk about - and insist on - blood purity is you.

I was not the one who went for Y-chromosomes or whatever. For me these concepts are entirely irrelevant as far as your discussion is concerned. But, of course, in addition to being a bloody racist, you are also not very fluent in English, so you failed to read what others have written - or, likely, understand what you yourself spout.

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Really you keep bringing it up not me. You bring up national romantic sh**t right out of the 19th century about the Basque being the original Europeans and Jews being pure middle easterner up.

I never once said a word about Jews being "pure middle easterners" and only brought up the Basques while mocking your "Hungarians are also native" crap.

Jews are an archetypal European minority, not because they are foreign to Europe by origin (that stuff IS pure crap), but because they refused to conform. This is why they were killed and persecuted all this time. And this is exactly what you want people to do: conform, live your way, or get out.

Xenophobia is dangerious not because it corresponds to any pseudo-scientific "racist" crap, but because it rejects the non-conformity. Jews were not killed because they are a race - but because they prayed their own way, and spoke their own dialect, and dressed differently, and ate differently.

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Here's the thing pure race people doesn't exist, people mix when they live as neighbours. I'm sure you would also say that Romani are Indians rather than Europeans and other crap.

You are the only one here who even thought that worth discussing. For you, of course, Roma are foreigners. For me they are brothers in non-conformity and persecution.

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In that case you shouldn't derail the thread because a non-native English speakers use the terms the English (Americans) speakers seem to love and throw a hissy fit if we don't use. No we don't use Judeo when we talk about European culture (we talk about European or Christendom), it's really a American thing, but when you're on a American board... well in Rome do as the Romans, and hope someone with an axe to grind doesn't use it to derail the entire thread.

Ah, you were just polite for the sake of the American idea of being nice to the Jews. I get it.

Well, of course, Jews are not European to you. You believe they should go where they came from - to Israel. Well, I have nothing to do with Israel. I do not know of any ancestors who came from there. My ancestors were persecuted by your Christian civilized people right here.

BTW, I lived long enough in the US before moving to Mexico to know the meaning of the terms. I hate those words in America, and I hate them anywhere.

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Yeah, I guess we can accept the Irish brothers into our non-white man's club