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« on: July 12, 2010, 09:07:51 PM »

1. The justice department, probably, can make it pretty expensive for some jurisdictions. They may loose, or they may win, but the legal effort might be costly for the local police forces. Most definitely, declared attention by the Justice might make some departments very cautious as far as what they are doing, unless they are dying to spend a big chunk of their resources of time and money in the courtroom.

2. Not every police department is in love w/ the law. Some of them might not be averse to loosing a case. Expect voluntary testimony of the sort: "yes, we do profile, because any alternative makes the law meaningless and impossible to apply, so, yes, we believe Arizona legilature wants us to violate federal anti-discrimination satutes". They might not say it that blatantly, but this will be the effect.

3. There will be long-term asymmetry here. Anglos, sooner or later, are going to forget about the law. Hispanics will remember for quite a while.  Especially Arizona Hispanics. For Anglos it is one of many issues. For Hispanics it's THE issue. Electoral effects here might, in the short term, work for Republicans: there are more Anglos out there. But long-term they lock the bulk of Hispanics as a solid Dem electorate (yes, there will be exceptions: it won't do it for EVERY Hispanic community, but these are numerically not that large). So, yeah, even if nothing comes out of the Justice challenges, the long-term investment makes sense.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 09:08:51 PM »

Obama has no clue what the bill actually says and is doing this for political reasons of building his base.

The problem is, not even those who wrote the law really cared about what the bill actually says. They passed it for the one and only reason: to build the base.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 10:01:53 PM »

For Hispanics it's THE issue.

Are you so sure? Is there data to back this up, or you simply restating a stereotype?

I don't have any stats, but I know what happened in California some years ago. My reading of the Hispanic reaction in AZ: the law was adopted as part of a strategy to excite the Anglos against Hispanics and any politician, who is in favor of the law, is in favor because he either hates Hispanics or because he wants to show his voters that he hates Hispanics. This, most definitely, was how this was covered in the Spanish-language media (both within the US and outside).

As a Jew, albeit non-practicing, I know, how I would react to a law banning the use  of human baby blood in ritual food made of wheat. No matter what else a politician, who proposed this law, would do, I would never vote for him. Even if we were to coincide on all other matters ideological, I'd rather vote for a Commie. I find it qutie plausible that, at least, AZ Hispanics will react similarly. I might be wrong, but Republicans in California have bet on that once a long time ago, and are still paying.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 06:18:12 PM »

I don't have any stats, but I know what happened in California some years ago. My reading of the Hispanic reaction in AZ: the law was adopted as part of a strategy to excite the Anglos against Hispanics and any politician, who is in favor of the law, is in favor because he either hates Hispanics or because he wants to show his voters that he hates Hispanics. This, most definitely, was how this was covered in the Spanish-language media (both within the US and outside).

As a Jew, albeit non-practicing, I know, how I would react to a law banning the use  of human baby blood in ritual food made of wheat. No matter what else a politician, who proposed this law, would do, I would never vote for him. Even if we were to coincide on all other matters ideological, I'd rather vote for a Commie. I find it qutie plausible that, at least, AZ Hispanics will react similarly. I might be wrong, but Republicans in California have bet on that once a long time ago, and are still paying.

  They should be storming Downtown Phoenix, pointing out how the ridiculous levels of crime (highest kidnapping rate in the western hemisphere for god's sake) are all tied to the massive amount of illegal immigration that comes through the Pinal county Border. 

They are going to be building a new bridge accross that huge river in Downtown Phoenix. Are you interested in investing?
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