White Privilege

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Come on, is that really in doubt?

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Why does poverty automatically mean failure?  And why do you automatically assume they are miserable?

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Why does poverty automatically mean failure?

@ me or Earth?

If directed at me: The way you liberals talk about it, you'd think it is. Poverty is only failure if one is not content in it. Many of the so-called "poor" are young people who will make more later in life.

You said it.  And I'm not a liberal.

Success and income are completely unassociated with each other.  So what if a person is content in their poverty?  Are you not content in your social standing?

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Why does poverty automatically mean failure?

@ me or Earth?

If directed at me: The way you liberals talk about it, you'd think it is. Poverty is only failure if one is not content in it. Many of the so-called "poor" are young people who will make more later in life.

You said it.  And I'm not a liberal.

Success and income are completely unassociated with each other.

That's sort of what I am getting at, that income is irrelevant.

And Fezzy, I have honestly never seen a post from you that wasn't center-left at least.

What you're saying is that income is not a factor in "success" defined as high income (which is entirely untrue).  What I'm saying is that income is not an indicator of "success" not defined by monetary standards.

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Yes, but remember life isn't fair.

It's easy to say that when it applies to someone else, isn't it?

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There is no "making money" gene and more importantly that's not what success is.  And your parents having made money does not make you a success.  It's easy to analyze, predict, and judge from an ivory tower.  It's harder to understand and question why it is.  Personal choice has its limits and so much more is just a matter of luck and circumstances.  Delusions of superiority based on income are shallow and feeble-minded, the exact opposite of a success.

And there is no creation of a society outside humanity.  Natural selection does not apply.  We are protected by the fortune of those far before us, animals are not.  We have the ability to pay to be selected.

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My merit is my genes are made up of two successful people.

That combined with your past equating of money to success leads me to believe you will make lots of money because you are built for it.  In reality, you've been given it by your parents not genetically.

Instead of talking in circles and contradicting yourself, why don't you just define success already?  Because the way I see it is that you think of money is that anyone can earn a lot of it and because they do that makes them successful.  What I and others are trying to get across is that you can't control all your circumstances to the point of willing high income.  It just doesn't happen.  Certain opportunities and challenges are and are not present intrinsically for people born into different circumstances.  Like I said, understanding why it is there are so many people in poverty is much more real but challenging when you have what they don't without having to work for it.

Your words don't match your actions I'm afraid.  I'm not saying you've said you're superior, I've deduced that from your attitude and point of view in your posts.  But I have no place to judge, I'm simply trying to open your eyes to a different perspective on the matter.  I know how easy it is to dismiss poverty since it's not even in your realm of possibility from what I understand.  I was like that for a long time and only recently even tried to understand what life would be like if I didn't have what I do.  And it is enriching above all else.  My appreciation for what I've been provided is way up.

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It doesn't exist. End of story. Black privilege is rampant though.

Hahaha yeah, blacks are soooooo privileged in the US.  They have a rich history of advantageous circumstances for sure, like being owned...

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Among the plethora of nonsensical blatherings, I can instantly pick out the pointless anecdotal crap and partisan idiocy.  Then you're left with an assertion that pointing out that most blacks are poor is somehow racist.  It's a fact, how is it racist?  If anything it's white people's fault anyway.  Not that I expect the typical ignorant white to understand, but it's really quite difficult to beat the attitude that you somehow deserve to be poor while also managing to find the money to educate yourself and earn a strong living.  It's a vicious cycle of uneducated poverty fueled by the constant dismissal and ignorance by white people who bitch about black people being in college and getting good jobs.  It's a very difficult situation in which to progress socioeconomically where you're defacto segregated into a society where higher education is out of the question and dangerous illegitimate careers are abundantly available.  Dead dads further the difficulty of succeeding in the way white people deride them for not being capable of doing.

And to suggest that we naturally hate what is different from us is absurd.  We are definitely taught to hate certain differences and it takes true life experience to see that and reject it, not embrace it closer.  Calling it "natural" is rationalizing your own racism and hate.

"Free ride"...God what a joke.

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It doesn't exist. End of story. Black privilege is rampant though.

Hahaha yeah, blacks are soooooo privileged in the US.  They have a rich history of advantageous circumstances for sure, like being owned...

Yep, because history is what we're talking about here, isn't it? We're talking about the present.

And in what way is history not relevant in this case?

Most liberals are like that. They support the poor, but why should they give up anything? Let that middle class pay for them in taxes.

There you go, just straw-man it until you can defeat it like a real thinker.

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Ahh, around the 80s. Affirmative Action became a reality and blackness became a skill. White became a handicap. not necessarily making up for slavery but it penalizes young white people who had no part in racism, slavery, or any racial injustice.

You know quotas are an urban legend right?  And equally qualified black people are almost always less preferenced even for having black sounding names.

That's called "fact" by the way.  Google that shit, it comes in handy.

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Yep, I was talking about race quotas. Look, it's fezzyfestoon, no subjekt is tu hi fr him tu takl, nor tu lo fr him to notis!

Aaaaand we've lost him...

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Yep, I was talking about race quotas. Look, it's fezzyfestoon, no subjekt is tu hi fr him tu takl, nor tu lo fr him to notis!

Aaaaand we've lost him...

What, your brain? I don't think you ever had one. By the way, I was quoting TR's detractors, in case you were interested.

Yep...gone

Alright, I'm just too curious and sadistic to let this die.  Who is "TR" here now?  And detractors of what?

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