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« on: September 06, 2018, 01:07:56 PM »



Leahy seems pissed.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 01:47:28 PM »

By the time the FBI is able to say, if they say anything at all, about the letter, he'll have been confirmed.

So while the press is going to be interested in this, there's just nothing really here yet to derail or even put into question his nomination.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2018, 05:52:21 PM »

I'm supposed to believe that someone with a reputation for partying in High School kept a comprehensive social calendar, not just at the time, but that he still has it decades later?

What.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2018, 06:00:17 PM »


Fake or not something is definitely going around.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2018, 06:46:47 PM »

Avenatti is such an attention whore.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2018, 07:24:58 PM »


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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2018, 08:35:54 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2018, 08:39:54 PM by new_patomic »

This is sort of a vicious cycle for the GOP I imagine.

The best solution would be to have Kavanaugh simply withdraw his nomination. Someone else, equally as conservative, but without this baggage or the baggage from work in the Bush White House, could be confirmed right before the midterms or in the lame duck period.

But that there is controversy around Kavanaugh is driving the White House and many voters to feel committed to seeing him through.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2018, 09:07:40 PM »

People need to pay less attention to whatever sh**t Avenatti is doing just to keep his name in the headlines, and more attention to the actually reported accusations from named individuals in both the Washington Post and New Yorker.

We can wait to focus on him until he actually follows through.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2018, 05:32:53 PM »

So this is where we're at.

A supreme court nominee telling Fox about his virginity.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2018, 07:16:24 PM »

I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to sell the base on a new nominee.

Sure it would be demoralizing. For at least a week.

But if Kavanaugh himself were to step aside, or Trump were to take charge of the situation, the battle will become over the new nominee instead of fighting it over the old one.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2018, 11:54:20 AM »

This is spiraling
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2018, 12:17:02 PM »


Well...
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2018, 02:30:00 PM »


Why is this pseudoscience being treated as an important piece of evidence?
We're in a PR battle and people are stupid
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2018, 03:01:44 PM »

Well, the Julie Swetnick allegations involve so many people that more people may come forward to confirm or deny her statements. Something doesn't smell right about this. A "train" of men were lined up for gang rapes at parties with a lot of people and no one said anything? Not one man? This kind of accusation fits the pattern of false allegations - they tend to be wild and fantastical. They tend to be too perfect. Interesting that she does not remember who actually raped her but she somehow remembers Kavanaugh and Judge.

How many people knew or were assaulted by Cosby yet it took decades to say something.

Penn State administrators knew for years something was going on and nothing came out.

The Catholic Church is now suffering for decades of cover up and neglect.

Of course that doesn't speak to the truthfulness of her allegation but the amount of people plausibly involved isn't necessary a strong detriment to her credibility.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2018, 03:14:46 PM »


Why is this pseudoscience being treated as an important piece of evidence?
We're in a PR battle and people are stupid

At least you admit to your intellectual dishonesty to destroy a man's life.
Oh grow up.

It isn't like Kavanaugh went on Fox News to profess his virginity because he thought it would clear the air and end the allegations. He knew he needed the PR and to get his side of the story out there before the hearing.

Ford and her lawyers weren't idiots. They knew that coming out with her story would make her a target for character assassination, death threats, and people like Trump or Graham making any number of statements about her motives and credibility. So of course she tried to prepare by taking a polygraph test. Even if psuedoscience it can held lend her credability as she fights to have her truth believed.

It being a PR battle doesnt make her claim false.
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2018, 03:54:29 PM »


Obvious political question is obvious
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2018, 04:17:25 PM »

Did he just compare George Washington to someone accused of sexual assault
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2018, 04:19:28 PM »



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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2018, 04:24:15 PM »

I need a drink.
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2018, 05:01:07 PM »



Lol
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2018, 05:16:21 PM »

Can someone give me a TL;DW on what he said?
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2018, 05:46:43 PM »

There is now a 4th accusation.

Senate probing new allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh
Supreme Court Nominee has been asked privately about an accusation of physical assault, sources tell NBC News

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2018, 05:55:54 PM »


Would that be when he was on Ken Starr's team investigating Bill Clinton?
Starr Report was released that September.

So it either was, or right afterwards, which isn't a great look obviously.

I don't see how Republicans could ask for a vote Friday and a full vote before October 1st with all this swirling around.
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2018, 06:47:28 PM »


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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2018, 07:27:23 PM »



Yeah this definitely seems like an attempt at muddying the waters.

A really stupid attempt, but jesus.
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