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GP270watch
Junior Chimp
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« on: June 28, 2021, 11:02:58 AM »
« edited: June 28, 2021, 11:13:40 AM by GP270watch »

 She's too smart for Americans.

 Whenever I described her policies to normal people they were like great "who is this?" but then ended up mostly voting for someone else based on personality. To be The President of The United States sadly takes a certain amount of personality and charisma as a politician that she might not have. Yes she is well liked and respected by people who know her best but at the end of the day, presidential politics are in part a stupid popularity contest.

  M4A didn't sink her campaign because this is something most Americans support. If we held a majority rules national referendum on M4A tomorrow it would win and probably in all 50 states. On top of the personality issues, the corporate media also did a hack-job on her. I've never seen a Presidential candidate that actually struck fear into Wall Street and the ultra wealthy and it was a personal fear about how they continue to get over, not fear of the country being "ruined" despite how they tried to frame critiques against her. She instilled this fear because unlike Bernie they actually feared her competency and ability to achieve the things she talked about.
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GP270watch
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2021, 11:13:07 AM »
« Edited: June 29, 2021, 11:28:32 AM by GP270watch »

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A popular story is told about Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965) when he was running for president in 1952 (or in 1956).

Someone heard Stevenson’s impressive speech and said, “Every thinking person in America will be voting for you.”

Stevenson replied, “I’m afraid that won’t do—I need a majority.”

Compounding the trouble, Warren's campaign was targeted more at midwits and Intellectuals Yet Idiots than at "thinking people." Far from being too smart for Americans, she was simultaneously bookish and ignorant, issuing policy platform after policy platform for the sake of showing that she had "done her homework" without bothering to acknowledge that the homework was done poorly.

But the most important criticism would hold even if her policies had not been a mess of pandering, bad math, shoddy research, and false certainty regarding costs and benefits. Mass politics is not about doing your homework.

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6. "Big structural Bailey" will go down in history as a campaign-defining moment on the level of Monkey Business or the Canuck Letter.

  Who in elected government has a better grasp of issues plaguing the average American family than Elizabeth Warren and her couching tree? This is not a rhetorical question! I would be interested in knowing who ya'll think understands the areas of bankruptcy, medical debt, student loan debt, deregulation and consolidation in banking, and racist/class/gender based economic disparity than Warren. Maybe there are a few politicians who have expertise in some of these areas but who actually understands and is working towards fixing all of them?
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GP270watch
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2021, 02:25:47 PM »
« Edited: July 02, 2021, 02:35:48 PM by GP270watch »

 I'm not buying this logic. The idea that she understands the various problems facing American families better than anybody else in government but then somehow her policy prescriptions are off base makes no sense.

 The bad math and big policy disruptions have actually worked against American families and they are accepted daily by a complicit media and millions of Americans who quite frankly suck at math and have been totally brainwashed towards "job creators" business first corporate lackey rhetoric.

 An example of this is Warren 2%-6% wealth tax on fortunes above $50 million and $1 billion. Which was ridiculed and attacked with the dopiest math in the press and even on this forum by so called Democrats. Warren prescribed a policy fix that would literally only effect thousands of the wealthiest families and would in reality have a negligible effect on their vast fortunes. We were treated to awful Warren puts a countdown clock on Bezos fortune type rhetoric by dumb pundits who don't understand how a fortune that large compounds astronomically.

 On the other side of Warren's policy prescription is the real and stunning truth that much of the America's wealthiest families have made large parts of their fortunes basically untaxable. This is where the ridicule and punditry should be focused but it's not. There was a full court press to cynically and dishonestly discredit her plans that goes missing when Trump and GOP passed a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans and corporations that would somehow "pay for itself".

 

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GP270watch
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2021, 10:16:31 PM »

They're still scared!

President Warren’s Government: Her proteges are filling out Biden’s business regulatory team.

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