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Question: Opinion of the British political parties
#1
Conservative: FF
 
#2
Conservative: HP
 
#3
Labour: FF
 
#4
Labour: HP
 
#5
Lib Dem: FF
 
#6
Lib Dem: HP
 
#7
Green: FF
 
#8
Green: HP
 
#9
SNP: FF
 
#10
SNP: HP
 
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« on: August 12, 2020, 02:43:55 PM »

All HPs right now. The Liberal Democrats are the most mediocre, but proved enough times that they're in the HP territory. The Greens aren't great on the antisemitism issue, and support dumb stuff like banning circumcision. I oppose seperatism, so I oppose the SNP too. The Tories are obvious, as a leftie.
Labour is the most interesting case- I think that they're moving in a very, very, very good direction under Keir Starmer. But still, the party was investigated for antisemitism and was one of the worst places for Jews in the UK until not a very long time ago. So still HP until they prove themselves.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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Posts: 11,445
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2020, 04:18:55 PM »

All HPs right now. The Liberal Democrats are the most mediocre, but proved enough times that they're in the HP territory. The Greens aren't great on the antisemitism issue, and support dumb stuff like banning circumcision. I oppose seperatism, so I oppose the SNP too. The Tories are obvious, as a leftie.
Labour is the most interesting case- I think that they're moving in a very, very, very good direction under Keir Starmer. But still, the party was investigated for antisemitism and was one of the worst places for Jews in the UK until not a very long time ago. So still HP until they prove themselves.

Justified criticism of Israel isn't anti-Semitism.

Do you know how many times I've been over this with leftists? Labour's leadership was extremely lenient to blatant and disgusting antisemitism (not even masked as Israel criticism in some of the lower parts), and the leader himself engaged with antisemitic tropes many times, too many to forgive. Full stop, not gonna argue with you about it too.

Starmer is doing great to redeem his party.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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Posts: 11,445
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Political Matrix
E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2020, 07:34:55 AM »

Why do people on Atlas hate Corbyn so much??

Sure, maybe he and his surrogates were antisemitic and that was bad, but he was strong on most other issues (other than Brexit). He was quite good on the NHS and other economic issues.

 I suppose I can see why moderates would dislike him but I've personally never had a bad opinion of him. He is probably the best "far left wing populist" in Europe. I will certainly take Corbyn over Iglesias, Melenchon or Tsipras.

And like I always say, what lost Corbyn the 2019 election was not antisemitism (at least not directly, but the aura of incompetence derived from that did hurt Labour).

Do people seriously think that the Labour Brexiteers in Northeast England that lost Corbyn the election voted for the Tories because of antisemitism? Lmao

If someone and his surrogates are antisemitic, they can be perfect on everything else and still be completely 100% vile. You can make "sure X is bad but the rest is good" statements on a myriad of topics and issues, but never on bigotry and racism.
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